#24 - MarJon Beauchamp - NEW POLL ADDED 12/4/23

[chonestown]

I guess when you can somehow attend more high schools than Jalen Johnson, it's labeled 'adversity' rather than being a red flag.

Dude talked at length about his mental problems dating from the onset of covid.

Fall the fk back.

[paulpressey25]

Does he have combine measurables? Curious how he tested out

[German Athens]

Does he have combine measurables? Curious how he tested out

6’6.5” in shoes, 7’0.75” wingspan, 8’10” standing reach.

He didn’t partake in the athletic testing.


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[Brewhoopfan]

I guess when you can somehow attend more high schools than Jalen Johnson, it's labeled 'adversity' rather than being a red flag.

Dude talked at length about his mental problems dating from the onset of covid.

Fall the fk back.

This was pre-Covid.

And I'll never blame a kid for the adults in his life chasing greener grass.

[emunney]

Does he have combine measurables? Curious how he tested out

He didn't do the strength and agility testing, but he's 6-6.5 in shoes with a 7+ foot wingspan and a 8-10 standing reach. He's got that pure basketball frame like Giannis, super elongated. When you watch the Ignite he and Foster really jump out as guys who look the part based on their bodies and movement skills. Beauchamp is like the classic "slasher" archetype.

You can see why we picked him. Somebody on the broadcast mentioned that his interview was reminiscent of Giannis; Rose talked about how he'll fit in because he's a grinder.

He wouldn't have been my pick but I'm excited to see what he can do. Between his physical tools and his purported work ethic, there's a lot of possibility. I think we all acknowledged that we had a hole in our roster the exact size and shape of a big athletic wing, and that's definitely what he is, so he should be able to find opportunities if he's even remotely ready.

[CharityStripe34]

I won't get into the argument of "G-League vs. NCAA" because I think it's a bit beside the point. I watched a variety of highlight videos of his draft profile and these are some of the things I've noticed:

PROS
-Very good athlete. Great hops, great lateral movement and a quick first step. And he's a legit 6'6" big guard with length. This is a player type the Bucks SORELY need, especially in transition and playing with Gianni. He's a bigger/taller/stronger version of Donte
-Moving without the ball/cutting. I liked what I saw. He's a low usage wing/guard that is a solid cutter and finds the open areas. Playing alongside the Big Three that's exactly what is needed, as he will hardly be asked to initiate offense, if at all (initially)
-Defensive chops. Has the length, lateral quickness and athleticism and active hands. And he works hard at that end. Good recovery ability
-Looks to be a very good finisher around the rim and in the paint. Great hops, finishes with authority/strength. Combine that with his solid cutting and he'll help provide a nice outlet in transition and in the half-court with defenses so focused on containing Gianni

NEEDS IMPROVEMENT
-Ball-handling. It's not awful or ugly, but can appear mechanical/basic and lacks a bit of fluidity. The few times he'll be isolated against decent defenders he'll have a bit of a hard time getting past them
-Shooting. While I've read scouting reports that his form and/or release are poor, it's not nearly as bad as some think. He has a relatively quick release and gets decent arc, but he looks inconsistent with his decision making to shoot and with judging distance. With plenty of work with the Bucks staff he should be able to be an adequate off-ball/spot-up shooter
-Passing. He's a willing passer and understands what's going on around him but his timing for when to pass and touch with the ball need improvement


Overall the high upside is there and he seems to be a good kid with intangibles, but his game will need to be polished/developed. Especially on the offensive end. You can't go wrong with a very good athlete who competes defensively and runs the break very well, especially with the Best Player Alive next to him in transition. I've been dying to see this team with more plus athletes and he definitely is one. Will he become a star player or even a 6th man of the year type? Probably not, but I can see him being a perfectly solid rotational piece who can potentially play good defense against the Browns and Tatums of the world and not get abused. He'll have to develop a decent spot-up shot relatively quickly if he wants any substantial court time, especially alongside the Big Three. I don't pretend to judge an athlete's personality or character, but from what I've heard and seen from him he seems to be a hard-working kid who's appreciative of his opportunity and you hope he understands he's hit the lottery to be able to land on a title contending team with the Best Player Alive and a roster of quality veteran players (not to mention a solid organization). Getting to work and learn with guys like Jrue, Gianni, Pat, Khris and Wes will do wonders for his competitive edge and motor.

If I had to make a guess, I think he just might become a quality, versatile SG/SF for this team.

[SirChurros]

Hope it works out, but talent evaluation hasn’t exactly been Horst’s thing. The fact that we were ready to trade up into the teens for a guy very few mocks even had as a first rounder is concerning when coupled with recent draft history.

[M-C-G]

He wouldn't have been my pick but I'm excited to see what he can do. Between his physical tools and his purported work ethic, there's a lot of possibility. I think we all acknowledged that we had a hole in our roster the exact size and shape of a big athletic wing, and that's definitely what he is, so he should be able to find opportunities if he's even remotely ready.

This is on point. Not the guy I would have gone with, but I like we addressed such a big missing archetype on this roster.

[M-C-G]

Taking with a grain of salt but the Bucks say they didn’t think MarJon would be available at #24 and that’s why they were trying to move up.

“We got a player,” Bucks assistant general manager Milt Newton said Thursday night. “Versatile, can defend multiple positions, really athletic, great defender. He will fit in with our schemes and big-time competitor. A player that we really wanted. We didn’t think he was going to be there at 24, and we were desperately trying to move up to make sure that we could get an arrangement where we could get him, but he was there. And we’re happy with that selection.”

Newton revealed that the Bucks had their eye on Beauchamp throughout the season and also welcomed him to Milwaukee for two draft workouts, which led to Beauchamp feeling quite comfortable with the Bucks.

https://theathletic.com/3381205/2022/06/23/bucks-draft-marjon-beauchamp/

This is a classic GM cliche. This is their version of "giving 110%." All GMs/Assistant GMs feel their guy could've gone earlier.

I agree, but there seemed to be pretty legit rumors we were trying to move up, just the speculation was for a big.

[machu46]

Hope it works out, but talent evaluation hasn’t exactly been Horst’s thing. The fact that we were ready to trade up into the teens for a guy very few mocks even had as a first rounder is concerning when coupled with recent draft history.

He was a first rounder on ESPN, The Ringer, The Athletic, SI, and Bleacher Report. Who didn’t have him as a first?


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[Matches Malone]

Hope it works out, but talent evaluation hasn’t exactly been Horst’s thing. The fact that we were ready to trade up into the teens for a guy very few mocks even had as a first rounder is concerning when coupled with recent draft history.

He was a first rounder on ESPN, The Ringer, The Athletic, SI, and Bleacher Report. Who didn’t have him as a first?

I think there might have been one or two CBS mock drafts that didn't feature him, but for the most part I saw him firmly placed in the first round.

[emunney]

Jason Hart (Ignite coach) talks MarJon. Talks his offensive potential a little bit but says he's going to be known for his defense and could become one of the league's best defenders. Likable, each to coach.

Watch on YouTube

[Frank Nova]

Best case scenario Beauchamp is like a Kelly Oubre / Draymond Green hybrid

Worst case scenario is he’s more like a Deandre Liggins with a higher bball IQ

He was a solid pick at 24.

[Iheartfootball]

If he focuses on defense and energy is he our Darvin Ham replacement?

[M-C-G]

Jason Hart (Ignite coach) talks MarJon. Talks his offensive potential a little bit but says he's going to be known for his defense and could become one of the league's best defenders. Likable, each to coach.

Watch on YouTube

Cool interview with some really good insight. For those that didn't catch it Hart comps him to Mikal Bridges.

[M-C-G]

If he focuses on defense and energy is he our Darvin Ham replacement?

Seems more like a PJ Tucker replacement, maybe without the vocal leadership.

[Dick Tate]

I guess when you can somehow attend more high schools than Jalen Johnson, it's labeled 'adversity' rather than being a red flag.

Dude talked at length about his mental problems dating from the onset of covid.

Fall the fk back.

This was pre-Covid.

And I'll never blame a kid for the adults in his life chasing greener grass.

So the adults are the red flag?

[BuildingBucks]

For the people upset at this pick who did you want at 24? Jaden Hardy is who I wanted but MarJon to me is safer as far as being a playable piece and he was in my top 5 available at the time so there are no complaints from me.

I hated basically all of our recent draft picks, Donte included. This one is the first in a while I think positively of.

[crowhead76]

Check out his g league stats then lol

You can’t be like these would be the best guys on their college teams therefor its a higher level of competition since its just not serious basketball for the most part. Its extended summer league, is summer league better the collage? The games aren’t played as a team or winning in mind, its get guys on an island getting theirs.

I just find it hilarious how you use Nik Stauskas as someone to point out how college basketball is superior.

The same Nik Stauskas that was the Big 10 player of the year.
The same Nik Stauskas that was the best player on an Elite 8 team the year Shabazz Naiper and DeAndre Daniels won it all.
The same Nik Stauskas that made second team All-American because Nick Johnson and Russ Smith beat him out.

I think the top end talent of college is unquestionably higher. I think a lot of the times the "talent" of those players is hardly developed and largely gawked at with potential though. Chet Holmgren wasn't a better college player than Kofi Cockburn who just went undrafted and will probably play in the G-League. And there's dozens of All-American, conference player of the year, etc playing in the G-League. Including, well, Nik Stauskas.

I guess I lost what the point trying to be made here about guys who suck in the NBA tearing it up in gatorade league exhibition games is. Again, its not serious competitive basketball.

G-League Ignite have had 3 players drafted both in 2022 and in 2021, last year included #2 and #7. At quick glance Duke is the only other program that has had 6 players total drafted to the NBA in the past two years. Disliking the G-League product discounts quite a bit of NBA talent, there is a new road to the NBA.

[ANTETOKOUNBROS]

His crying in each and every interview makes me concerned about his emotional volatility/ability to stay focused.