Welcome DeAnthony Melton

[DCasey91]

It feels like Daryl watched the Finals and thought to himself that our offensive firepower can go toe-to-toe with these teams and all we need are the Gary Payton IIs of the world to support them. It feels like he's overrating our offensive firepower.

This timeline is getting weird when Kobble makes sense. Trade is fair value but list wise? We are pretty far off the mark. Zero wings is pretty stupid

Still holding out for BI.

[Kobblehead]

This timeline is getting weird when Kobble makes sense.

That just means that you improved your ability to learn.

[76ciology]

This timeline is getting weird when Kobble makes sense.

That just means that you improved your ability to learn.

[76ciology]

It feels like Daryl watched the Finals and thought to himself that our offensive firepower can go toe-to-toe with these teams and all we need are the Gary Payton IIs of the world to support them. It feels like he's overrating our offensive firepower.

3 guard unit works if you have the right 4-5.
Not Tobias at the 4.

[youngcrev]

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/5/19/23125679/the-confounding-deanthony-melton-nba-memphis-grizzlies-player-reviews

Kobble might not be too far off.

Maybe it is more than just noisy, low volume stats with him in the playoffs.

But also... Maybe not.

Dun-dun-dunnnnnn

I'd still say he's comfortably the 5th most reliable playoff piece on the roster. The Sixers have been the anti-Grizzlies in terms of depth. I'd raid them for more talent if possible.

[Negrodamus]

I remember someone here hyping Melton up during his draft and being mad that we didn't buy a pick to get him.

PLO?

Or maybe Smitty

Definitely PLO. Guy had a very good draft record.

[rocketsfan100]

He is athletic as hell with great defensive awareness. Really good at causing defelections. Really good distrusting the offensive sets.

Solid three point shooter and good rebounding guard for his size. I really like this pickup. Will help offset Harden and Maxeys defensive deficiencies.

[youngcrev]

Good for Danny btw, managing to get that last 10M pay day when he might not even play again.

[Kobblehead]

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/5/19/23125679/the-confounding-deanthony-melton-nba-memphis-grizzlies-player-reviews

Kobble might not be too far off.

Maybe it is more than just noisy, low volume stats with him in the playoffs.

But also... Maybe not.

Dun-dun-dunnnnnn

I'd still say he's comfortably the 5th most reliable playoff piece on the roster. The Sixers have been the anti-Grizzlies in terms of depth. I'd raid them for more talent if possible.

Yeah, I mean just look at the stats. Don't need blog posts for validation. He's awful offensively in the playoffs. Just like Matisse has been. So if you're wasting a first rounder that you could have used to build for the next phase of Embiid career to maximize this current iteration, it's probably not a smart move.

De'Anthony Melton shooting 30% from three and having 6'8" wings shoot over his tiny self isn't going to help us advance in the playoffs.

[Negrodamus]

My guess is that Morey saw how disruptive Matisse was on defense last year but had zero ability to shoot the ball. Then he looks at Green and sees a high volume three point shooter who is on the other side of his career as a defensive player. Probably feels like they could be consolidated and move Thybulle while he's near peak value (the playoffs hurt).

It's not a terrible thought process and I would definitely bet on someone continuing to build on their game if they can fix that broken ass jumpshot like he had at USC. I'm not terribly concerned with the playoff stats and if we were just going to draft a guy with role player upside, then this is a good move. I, personally, would have drafted someone that I saw star upside in even with the high risk of them busting.

[youngcrev]

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/5/19/23125679/the-confounding-deanthony-melton-nba-memphis-grizzlies-player-reviews

Kobble might not be too far off.

Maybe it is more than just noisy, low volume stats with him in the playoffs.

But also... Maybe not.

Dun-dun-dunnnnnn

I'd still say he's comfortably the 5th most reliable playoff piece on the roster. The Sixers have been the anti-Grizzlies in terms of depth. I'd raid them for more talent if possible.

Yeah, I mean just look at the stats. Don't need blog posts for validation. He's awful offensively in the playoffs. Just like Matisse has been. So if you're wasting a first rounder that you could have used to build for the next phase of Embiid career to maximize this current iteration, it's probably not a smart move.

De'Anthony Melton shooting 30% from three and having 6'8" wings shoot over his tiny self isn't going to help us become a contender.

On 64 attempts.

Maybe the moment is too big for him, but I'd say the regular season stats show him to be a considerably better shooter than Thybulle. Hard to imagine teams just flat out wouldn't defend him the way they do Matisse.

[Kobblehead]

It just seems like all the top scorers on Eastern contenders are Fs that Melton has a major size disadvantage with and won't actually guard.

So who is he being brought in to defend? He's a good counter to guys like Trae Young and Darius Garland, but those guys play for fringe playoff teams, at best.

[Negrodamus]

Let's peep how good Danny Green was at 23-24 in the playoffs:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html

Spoiler alert: not good

How about DPOY Marcus Smart at the same age?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smartma01.html

Also not good.

[DCasey91]

This timeline is getting weird when Kobble makes sense.

That just means that you improved your ability to learn.

And that’s the last time I give you anything.

[DCasey91]

My guess is that Morey saw how disruptive Matisse was on defense last year but had zero ability to shoot the ball. Then he looks at Green and sees a high volume three point shooter who is on the other side of his career as a defensive player. Probably feels like they could be consolidated and move Thybulle while he's near peak value (the playoffs hurt).

It's not a terrible thought process and I would definitely bet on someone continuing to build on their game if they can fix that broken ass jumpshot like he had at USC. I'm not terribly concerned with the playoff stats and if we were just going to draft a guy with role player upside, then this is a good move. I, personally, would have drafted someone that I saw star upside in even with the high risk of them busting.

Negrodamus you did the stat eval from years gone by in drafts. Now correlation doesn’t cause causation but I beg to differ especially with guards/wings.

Surely there’s a blueprint there moving forward. Who do you like from this year’s crop that fits the shooting splits ft%, steal rate bill?

[Jailblazers7]

It just seems like all the top scorers on Eastern contenders are Fs that Melton has a major size disadvantage with and won't actually guard.

So who is he being brought in to defend? He's a good counter to guys like Trae Young and Darius Garland, but those guys play for fringe playoff teams, at best.

I kinda think Melton is a perfect player to guard someone like Tatum. If we can get a dogged on ball defender that can bait him into midrange jumpers that’s about as good as we can hope for. Unless Brown/Tatum make a ball handling leap smaller defenders are a reasonable option against them.

[Negrodamus]

My guess is that Morey saw how disruptive Matisse was on defense last year but had zero ability to shoot the ball. Then he looks at Green and sees a high volume three point shooter who is on the other side of his career as a defensive player. Probably feels like they could be consolidated and move Thybulle while he's near peak value (the playoffs hurt).

It's not a terrible thought process and I would definitely bet on someone continuing to build on their game if they can fix that broken ass jumpshot like he had at USC. I'm not terribly concerned with the playoff stats and if we were just going to draft a guy with role player upside, then this is a good move. I, personally, would have drafted someone that I saw star upside in even with the high risk of them busting.

Negrodamus you did the stat eval from years gone by in drafts. Now correlation doesn’t cause causation but I beg to differ especially with guards/wings.

Surely there’s a blueprint there moving forward. Who do you like from this year’s crop that fits the shooting splits ft%, steal rate bill?

In terms of what? Just panning out?

Tari Eason
Wendell Moore
Ryan Rollins
TyTy Washington

Are some of them. I gave a more comprehensive answer in the draft thread: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2109941&start=1280

[sodmoraes]

Melton may have his flaws but he´s a great defender and shoots a lot of 3s with good %. Besides that, he was a productive bench player on the 2st best team in the regular season. Our bench sucks, so he will have a huge impact here, atleast in the regular season.

[Kobblehead]

I kinda think Melton is a perfect player to guard someone like Tatum. If we can get a dogged on ball defender that can bait him into midrange jumpers that’s about as good as we can hope for. Unless Brown/Tatum make a ball handling leap smaller defenders are a reasonable option against them.

We saw an iteration of that and it didn't go well for the defensive player.

Spoiler:

[Jailblazers7]

Lucky for us that KD is on a shrinking ship. We’re talking about the need to guard Middleton, Tatum, and Brown which is very different than guarding KD.