Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bobby back on a 4/$49 deal, Ingles 1 year deal

WiscoKing13 · Post #762 » by **WiscoKing13** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:07 pm

FlagsFlyForever wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:What day is it legal signings or allowed for wojo/shams allowed to tweet out signings? I've seen both June 30th and July 1st.

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If you’re the Bulls or Miami, you can sign players now. If the Bucks, not until well into the day of July 1st.

Chicago and Miami both got 2nd round picks taken away just like we did.

They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

CharityStripe34 · Post #763 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:07 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
If you’re the Bulls or Miami, you can sign players now. If the Bucks, not until well into the day of July 1st.

Chicago and Miami both got 2nd round picks taken away just like we did.
They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

They didn't have Alex Lasry spilling the beans.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #764 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:13 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
If you’re the Bulls or Miami, you can sign players now. If the Bucks, not until well into the day of July 1st.

Chicago and Miami both got 2nd round picks taken away just like we did.
They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

That was the Bucks' choice to back out, wasn't it? The league didn't block the Bogdanovic trade.

ShootingtheJ · Post #765 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:21 pm

LuessiT wrote:The Magic won't offer Bamba the QO. He'll just sign it.

What's the downside of this for the Magic? They have massive cap room, and plenty of roster spots.

Players always get overpaid. He'll get a 3 or 4 year MLE from someone.

LuessiT · Post #766 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:28 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:The Magic won't offer Bamba the QO. He'll just sign it.

What's the downside of this for the Magic? They have massive cap room, and plenty of roster spots.

Players always get overpaid. He'll get a 3 or 4 year MLE from someone.

You pay 10m to a player you possibly don't want and give him a no trade clause? Obviously not our money but that's horrible.

Giannisland34 · Post #767 » by **Giannisland34** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:28 pm

I do think the Bucks can use another center. Portis, Giannis, & Mamu are all more power forwards. That leaves Brook as the only one. I prefer Hartenstein but would be happy with Bamba too. But cost and how the Magic and Clippers or any other team in free agency deal / offer them will play a major factor.

ShootingtheJ · Post #768 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:34 pm

FlagsFlyForever wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:Chicago and Miami both got 2nd round picks taken away just like we did.
They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

That was the Bucks' choice to back out, wasn't it? The league didn't block the Bogdanovic trade.

Bogdan and his agent backed out.

ShootingtheJ · Post #769 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:37 pm

LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:The Magic won't offer Bamba the QO. He'll just sign it.

What's the downside of this for the Magic? They have massive cap room, and plenty of roster spots.

Players always get overpaid. He'll get a 3 or 4 year MLE from someone.

You pay 10m to a player you possibly don't want and give him a no trade clause? Obviously not our money but that's horrible.

Why don't they want him? He started last year. They didn't draft a center. They have no use for the cap space. He can still be traded, you just need his consent. Why would he block a trade to a team that wants him? There's literally no downside.

ShootingtheJ · Post #770 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:39 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:Chicago and Miami both got 2nd round picks taken away just like we did.
They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

They didn't have Alex Lasry spilling the beans.

Bogdan's agent spilled the beans to get Bogdan more money, and it worked.

Post #771 » by **Prez** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:40 pm

Would really like Hartenstein on this team.

ShootingtheJ · Post #772 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:43 pm

tski1972 wrote:Mil In: Okeke, Justin Holiday
Mil Out: Grayson, Hill, future 2nd(s)

Orl In: Grayson, future 2nd
Orl Out: Okeke

Sac in: Hill
Sac Out: Justin Holiday

Hill's last run in Sacramento ended on a sour note. The Bucks won't send him back there.

I do agree that the Magic are a likely destination for Allen.

CharityStripe34 · Post #773 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:55 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:They both got to execute their transactions. We did not

They didn't have Alex Lasry spilling the beans.

Bogdan's agent spilled the beans to get Bogdan more money, and it worked.

Perhaps it's time to have a chat with his agent..

LuessiT · Post #774 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:00 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
What's the downside of this for the Magic? They have massive cap room, and plenty of roster spots.

Players always get overpaid. He'll get a 3 or 4 year MLE from someone.

You pay 10m to a player you possibly don't want and give him a no trade clause? Obviously not our money but that's horrible.

Why don't they want him? He started last year. They didn't draft a center. They have no use for the cap space. He can still be traded, you just need his consent. Why would he block a trade to a team that wants him? There's literally no downside.

Are you being obtuse for a reason? 10m is a huge overpay based on his play. You maybe can give him 10m per on a multi year deal because you hope he develops into a player worth more than 10m. But you wouldn't get that upside here because it would be a one year deal if he signs the QO. He also can't just be used as expiring filler because he can veto a trade so he wouldn't be useful for that. None gets a no trade clause these days, not even stars. So that's a big deal too. And they just drafted a big #1, they extended a big, they paid a big who was injured but may come back. And not to mention the opportunity cost of being able to absorb bad salary and getting paid for it like Detroit for Kemba.

ShootingtheJ · Post #775 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:13 pm

LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
You pay 10m to a player you possibly don't want and give him a no trade clause? Obviously not our money but that's horrible.

Why don't they want him? He started last year. They didn't draft a center. They have no use for the cap space. He can still be traded, you just need his consent. Why would he block a trade to a team that wants him? There's literally no downside.

Are you being obtuse for a reason? 10m is a huge overpay based on his play. You maybe can give him 10m per on a multi year deal because you hope he develops into a player worth more than 10m. But you wouldn't get that upside here because it would be a one year deal if he signs the QO. He also can't just be used as expiring filler because he can veto a trade so he wouldn't be useful for that. None gets a no trade clause these days, not even stars. So that's a big deal too. And they just drafted a big #1, they extended a big, they paid a big who was injured but may come back. And not to mention the opportunity cost of being able to absorb bad salary and getting paid for it like Detroit for Kemba.

Bamba just finished a 1.2 VORP season. Historically, players with that total get the full MLE and even more. They just drafted a PF. Wendell Carter plays both positions, and they have no other center.

If Orlando makes the QO, they will likely be compensated if Bamba signs with another team.

SirChurros · Post #776 » by **SirChurros** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 pm

I'd love Bamba, I just don't think we have a path to getting it done. He is the ideal Brook replacement and would probably really thrive with some proper coaching.

ShootingtheJ · Post #777 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:28 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:I'd love Bamba, I just don't think we have a path to getting it done. He is the ideal Brook replacement and would probably really thrive with some proper coaching.

Wendell Carter would be the ideal Brook replacement. A center who has the speed and agility to not get us killed come playoff time, and can also shoot the 3 a little, plus attack closeouts.

yb90 · Post #778 » by **yb90** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:28 pm

Could Milwaukee pull of a S&T with Orlando using Allen and Hill to get Mamba? Then try to pick up Harris with the tMLE. Malik Monk would be another Grayson Allen replacement.

raferfenix · Post #779 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:29 pm

Isn’t Bobby the “Brook replacement” already?

Idk if I see him heading back to the bench long term at least.

Easier to imagine Lopez transitioning to more of a backup role, if not this season, then the next one after he returns on a dramatically smaller contract.

Now we definitely could use another true center in addition. But considering how cash conscious we’ve been elsewhere I suspect 3rd string center isn’t likely to get full tpmle kind of resources.

SirChurros · Post #780 » by **SirChurros** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:31 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:I'd love Bamba, I just don't think we have a path to getting it done. He is the ideal Brook replacement and would probably really thrive with some proper coaching.

Wendell Carter would be the ideal Brook replacement. A center who has the speed and agility to not get us killed come playoff time, and can also shoot the 3 a little, plus attack closeouts.

I like Wendell Carter but Bamba is a much better defender and floor spacer. And I think he has more unlocked potential.