Texas Chuck wrote:Oh if its whose game I like watching the most, Maxi Kleber is the MVP.
But that's reductive and stupid and I forgot why I don't engage with you often. You never are willing to engage with the points I make in the posts you quote but rather invent windmills to tilt at.
Like this?
Texas Chuck wrote:Snakebites wrote:The fact that we’re even having this discussion is a sign of how normalized Jokic’s greatness has become.
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Yep its just voter fatigue. People get tired of just the truth that Bird was the best, Mike was the best, Shaq was the best, Timmy was the best, Lebron was the best(forever), etc...
They know deep down Joker is the best player, but thats' boring. Plus they want to be "first" on that next guy so they jump. It's the same reason we are seeing all the Wemby is the future GOAT stuff right now.
Your first "point" this thread was you tilting at an imaginary windmill. You take people's points far less seriously than your own telepathy.
If you want to try and justify "lebron should have won 10 mvp's" with actual reasoning, go ahead.
eminence wrote:IlikeSHAIguys wrote:ShaqAttac wrote:statmuse says nuggs go from negative 4 to 5 which is 9
statmuse mavs go from negative 10 to 4 which is 14
Does anyone know how SGA looks by this number?
I don't have the numbers on hand, but similar to Luka this year, quite rough last year.
Over a 7 game sample...
With Shai, Thunder post a net-rating of +8.6, 53-win pace by record
Without Shai, Thunder post a net-rating of
-4.7, 23-win pace by record
This is the best split we've seen for Shai over his career.
For comparison, over a 12 game sample
with Luka, Mavs post a net-rating of
+4.3, 54-win pace by record
without Luka, Mavs post a net-rating of
-10, 27-win pace by record
Also the best split we've seen for Luka over his career.
Moving to Jokic, 3 game sample
With Jokic, Nuggets post a net-rating of
5.6, 58-win pace by record
Without Jokic, Nuggets post a net-rating of
2.5, 55-win pace by record
Worst sample of his career(perhaps because it is the smallest) so if we instead use the best sample (8 games)
Without Jokic, Nuggets post a
-7.4 net rating, 52-win pace by record
With Jokic, Nuggets post a
+3.4 net rating, 27-win pace by record