One_and_Done wrote:eyeatoma wrote:What?????One_and_Done wrote:He's shaping up to be a better version of Kobe. Still not a top 5 player, but he might get there.
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One_and_Done wrote:eyeatoma wrote:What?????One_and_Done wrote:He's shaping up to be a better version of Kobe. Still not a top 5 player, but he might get there.
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A 22 year old Lebron James was still finding his stroke. He was always on attack mode for the easy buckets at his size and strength compared to his opponent.SpreeS wrote:He isn’t offensive hub like Doncic/Lebron/Jokic. More like Wade/Durant/Tatum/Kawhi attacking mode. So his potential is around 4-8th man in the league.
Pelly24 wrote:TBH I think Tatum is a fair ceiling at this point. To date, he's yet to have a truly elite volume scoring performance, even in this era; he averaged 26/5/4 on 57 TS% this year. He seems to rise during the playoffs, but I don't see anywhere near the all-around playmaking IQ of a Dwyane Wade or Michael Jordan or Kobe TBH, and he seems to also lack the nuance of skill. But like Tatum, he' in a situation where his organization has had a run of competence that eventually helped him a lot. Like, how would 2019-2023 healthy Dame look on this team instead of Ant? He's essentially a far better passer and a far better shooter while being someone that can average 30/5/8 on 63 TS%. His efficiency is about 5% worse than Luka's, and he's a far, far worse playmaker and a far less consistent volume scorer. His free throw rate is not yet elite. Ant is scoring less points on worse efficiency than prime/peak wade even *without* considering the relative TS% rank. Wade was averaging 30/5/7.5 on 58 TS% with elite defense in 2008-2009. Ant, even in this era where the average TS% is around 57-58 TS%, is averaging 25/4/5 on 57 TS% while being a worse defender and playmaker than Wade. Wade's equivalent TS% is like 62 TS%, and he would probably be even more dominant today. People gotta remember, Wade was like a top 5 player when LeBron was the GOAT, cp3 was incredible and Kobe was still around. Even 34 year old Kobe averaged 27/5/6 on 58 TS%, which is still clearly better than Ant *before* considering the differences in how easy it is to score now.
Like I said, he kind of reminds me of Tatum; a player that the league somewhat force feeds to give us a prototypical star. The Tatum hype has been so crazy that there were people who seriously considered him to be a better player than Luka. Ant is a top 20 guy right now. He's s0meone who's on a low-key stacked team that doesn't appear to be stacked because there aren't the most obvious marquee names. But Rudy Gobert is the likely DPOY (deservingly) on the best defense in the league, KAT is a big man averaging 22/8/3 on 63 TS%. Naz Reid a 6MOY candidate. Mike Conley averaging 11 ppg on 63 TS% as a super savvy veteran... just goes on and on. I think ANT has top 1% athleticism, above average skill, decent IQ. But I see him as a top 20 player now, a top 10 player at best, and even that would need a big jump as he wasn't all that close this year.
HMFFL wrote:A 22 year old Lebron James was still finding his stroke. He was always on attack mode for the easy buckets at his size and strength compared to his opponent.SpreeS wrote:He isn’t offensive hub like Doncic/Lebron/Jokic. More like Wade/Durant/Tatum/Kawhi attacking mode. So his potential is around 4-8th man in the league.
Next season will give us a much better indication of who Anthony Edwards will be. I believe this postseason is exactly what he needed and he's showcasing his talent.
I believe Edwards will be far superior to Wade, who seems to be mentioned often in this thread, but time will tell.
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Tomtolbert wrote:HMFFL wrote:A 22 year old Lebron James was still finding his stroke. He was always on attack mode for the easy buckets at his size and strength compared to his opponent.SpreeS wrote:He isn’t offensive hub like Doncic/Lebron/Jokic. More like Wade/Durant/Tatum/Kawhi attacking mode. So his potential is around 4-8th man in the league.
Next season will give us a much better indication of who Anthony Edwards will be. I believe this postseason is exactly what he needed and he's showcasing his talent.
I believe Edwards will be far superior to Wade, who seems to be mentioned often in this thread, but time will tell.
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That's quite a statement. There aren't many players in NBA history who I'd say were "far superior" to Wade.
WarriorGM wrote:Steph is the greatest playmaker of all-time.
Kawaii Leonard wrote:Ant does drills doing banker shots and gives Duncan the credit for it. A rarity in this new gen, especially for the position he plays.