Week 2 Game thread

[Micah Prescott]

Jeanty averaging 2.7 per should be concerning to Raiders fans given that RB is a position where many rookies take off immediately.

That said, just 2 weeks in, still very very early, and Chargers seem like a good defense.

[Micah Prescott]

Dallas defense still straight garbage.

But like bottom-10 garbage as opposed to last season's bottom-2 garbage.

So at least there is progress

[JujitsuFlip]

What do you guys think of Jeanty? He looks like a third down back to me. He’s very shifty but he doesn’t have top end. Hes also coming down after initial contact which wasn’t a problem in college

The Chargers have an elite defense. They we're the #1 scoring defense last season & they look even better this year.

Jeanty really struggled in pass pro. I think that's partly why he's not getting more reps. I also don't think the Raiders O-line is that great.

The potential is clearly there. His balance is already elite, it’s Kamara level. With that said, he might be the worst pass pro RB in the league right now. It’s pretty crazy to see

Only because Mixon is on the Texans IR currently hahahaha

[JujitsuFlip]

Dallas defense still straight garbage.

But like bottom-10 garbage as opposed to last season's bottom-2 garbage.

So at least there is progress

Fear not, they just signed Clowney.

[Cactus Jack]

What do you guys think of Jeanty? He looks like a third down back to me. He’s very shifty but he doesn’t have top end. Hes also coming down after initial contact which wasn’t a problem in college

The Chargers have an elite defense. They we're the #1 scoring defense last season & they look even better this year.

Jeanty really struggled in pass pro. I think that's partly why he's not getting more reps. I also don't think the Raiders O-line is that great.

The potential is clearly there. His balance is already elite, it’s Kamara level. With that said, he might be the worst pass pro RB in the league right now. It’s pretty crazy to see

This type of effort will get you benched.

Read on Twitter

[wco81]

Yikes, the #6 pick of the draft.

What were the Raiders' needs besides RB?

They let a good one just walk out the building in Jacobs. So they're going to let Jeanty walk in 4 years because you're not suppose to pay RBs?

With Bowers they should be going all-in on passing, though they need WRs and also a long-term QB.

[Mamba Mentality]

I know we're only two weeks into the season, but this was supposed to be the best rookie rb class in recent memory. They certainly haven't lived up to the billing.

I personally invested heavy in Henderson across all my fantasy leagues in the hopes he would jump Rhamondre on the depth chart sooner rather than later because of his fumbling issues. But now Henderson is struggling in pass pro something he was supposedly elite at in college. WTF.

[Jaydubb]

I know we're only two weeks into the season, but this was supposed to be the best rookie rb class in recent memory. They certainly haven't lived up to the billing.

I personally invested heavy in Henderson across all my fantasy leagues in the hopes he would jump Rhamondre on the depth chart sooner rather than later because of his fumbling issues. But now Henderson is struggling in pass pro something he was supposedly elite at in college. WTF.

I always think NFL teams will learn from their mistakes and stop drafting RBs high but it keeps happening regardless. The only way I can be convinced it’s a good idea is if the RB is going to a team with a young already elite OL and RB is the final piece.

It’s ironic that the rookie with the most rushing yards so far is a 7th round pick.

[Duke4life831]

The Chargers have an elite defense. They we're the #1 scoring defense last season & they look even better this year.

Jeanty really struggled in pass pro. I think that's partly why he's not getting more reps. I also don't think the Raiders O-line is that great.

The potential is clearly there. His balance is already elite, it’s Kamara level. With that said, he might be the worst pass pro RB in the league right now. It’s pretty crazy to see

This type of effort will get you benched.

Read on Twitter

Ya that’s rough. Half ass effort on the block, then just standing around watching.

He reminds me of Randy Moss back in the day. Where if it was a run or a play or a designed pass to the opposite field of him. You could tell by how he lined up at the line of scrimmage. And the second it was snapped, he would just casually walk around. But he was freaking Randy Moss. Can’t be doing that as a rookie, especially when he’s not lighting the world on fire the first couple games

[Cactus Jack]

Yikes, the #6 pick of the draft.

What were the Raiders' needs besides RB?

WR, OL, DL, CB

[wco81]

Barkley was the #2 pick of the draft and only proved his value by leaving in free agency. He just went to the team which could maximize his talents.

Yet the most he's scheduled to make is $17.1 million in 2028, when he will be over 31. Eagles will either renegotiate or probably waive him.

Meanwhile, both WRs will make more, the starting OL, Jalen Carter when he's out of his rookie deal and the DBs when they finish their rookie contracts.

He had huge impact on winning last season but he's getting paid little relative to that impact. Yet it's about the most that RBs can expect now in the NFL.

[clyde21]

I know we're only two weeks into the season, but this was supposed to be the best rookie rb class in recent memory. They certainly haven't lived up to the billing.

I personally invested heavy in Henderson across all my fantasy leagues in the hopes he would jump Rhamondre on the depth chart sooner rather than later because of his fumbling issues. But now Henderson is struggling in pass pro something he was supposedly elite at in college. WTF.

rookie RBs tend to come on second half of their rookie season, Gibbs averaged 44 yards per game his first four games in Detroit, before going inactive for two weeks, and then going for 150 two weeks later

i also heavily invested in Hendo, he's my guy, but it was more for my second half of the fantasy season, not for immediate returns. the idea that rookie RBs contribute immediately in the NFL just isn't true unless your name is like Barkley or Adrian Peterson

[azcatz11]

Jeanty averaging 2.7 per should be concerning to Raiders fans given that RB is a position where many rookies take off immediately.

That said, just 2 weeks in, still very very early, and Chargers seem like a good defense.

I’m not judging performance. I’m talking about his stature. He’s not dynamic in the passing game like LT was. He looks like a dynamic third down back to me. Nothing about him as jumped out to me and his top end speed is not there. Not calling him a bust yet but he was over drafted. Only Bijan / Saquon type archetypes should be considered top 20

[clyde21]

re: Jeanty, he should've never went that high and this isn't hindsight, just not a physical specimen at RB that usually goes high, imo more of a second half of the first round prospect.

you gotta be physically special as a RB to go top 10 man, we weren't talking about Saquan or AP here

[El Turco]

Greg Roman with the Brain fart play call.

Greg Roman is just a brain fart.

[El Turco]

Kinda cute Harbaugh is back to dominating Carroll

[El Turco]

So is this the year Herbert jumps into the elite group and makes it a group of 5?

Josh Allen is probably the only guy that has better physical tools and he isn’t nearly as accurate as a thrower as Herbert is.

At some point he'll have to prove it in playoffs. I dont know why but his demeanor doesnt give the impression of a quarterback that succeeds in playoffs, cant pinpoint what it is.

He has all the tools though, this is not like Lamar situation where the way he plays makes it easier for coordinators to gameplan.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Whose everyone's betting favourite star to get dealt first? I could see Henderickson going if Burrow is indeed gone for 3 months. I mean that's Christmas/New Year's I don't see how they are competitive enough in a loaded AFC with Buffalo/Baltimore/Chargers/KC/Denver/Houston (have faith they will turn it around) and average teams like Indy/Jacksonville/Pittsburgh/Vegas.

I know this is really early but I could see some teams being serious sellers by week 5 if they are truly out of it.

Philly would be stupid to move off AJ Brown unless a team blows them away with a offer. Like Pat Surtain Jr but I could see the argument both teams say no.

Players that need obvious changes of scenery are Tyree Wilson Kyle Pitts and Anthony Robertson. Right now both former Gators have little value maybe Pitts gets you a 3rd and a guy who needs out as well. Tyree Wilson idk who trades anything more than a 4th/5th for him. He's looked awful in LV. I could see The Browns potentially selling high on Ward like a decent 2nd plus a 4th/5th and a decent depth piece back

[JujitsuFlip]

Whose everyone's betting favourite star to get dealt first? I could see Henderickson going if Burrow is indeed gone for 3 months. I mean that's Christmas/New Year's I don't see how they are competitive enough in a loaded AFC with Buffalo/Baltimore/Chargers/KC/Denver/Houston (have faith they will turn it around) and average teams like Indy/Jacksonville/Pittsburgh/Vegas.

I know this is really early but I could see some teams being serious sellers by week 5 if they are truly out of it.

Philly would be stupid to move off AJ Brown unless a team blows them away with a offer. Like Pat Surtain Jr but I could see the argument both teams say no.

Players that need obvious changes of scenery are Tyree Wilson Kyle Pitts and Anthony Robertson. Right now both former Gators have little value maybe Pitts gets you a 3rd and a guy who needs out as well. Tyree Wilson idk who trades anything more than a 4th/5th for him. He's looked awful in LV. I could see The Browns potentially selling high on Ward like a decent 2nd plus a 4th/5th and a decent depth piece back

What would Hendrickson even net? They had him on the trade block twice, he's on an expiring deal and will be 31 this season.

[Lakers In 5]

So is this the year Herbert jumps into the elite group and makes it a group of 5?

Josh Allen is probably the only guy that has better physical tools and he isn’t nearly as accurate as a thrower as Herbert is.

If we assume Mahomes, Lamar, Allen and Burrow are the gauntlet, I would say Baker is more likely to join than Herbert. Baker is a dog, a big game player. Does the opposite of crumbling, which is not something we can say of Herbert. I think the play of Baker in combination with their skill positions makes the Bucs a legitimate Super Bowl contender this season.