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My question is how did they have Tooney higher than Richard?
I know one of Lacob’s son is in charge of international scouting and they’ve been **** at it. Good riddance Kent lacob doesn’t work for the Warriors FO anymore.
I know one of Lacob’s son is in charge of international scouting and they’ve been **** at it. Good riddance Kent lacob doesn’t work for the Warriors FO anymore.
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bay2hk wrote:My question is how did they have Tooney higher than Richard?
I know one of Lacob’s son is in charge of international scouting and they’ve been **** at it. Good riddance Kent lacob doesn’t work for the Warriors FO anymore.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves on Kent. From what the +/- guys were saying, he was one of the only guys in the FO that had the balls to disagree with the other lacobs. Sure, 3 lacobs are worse than 2 but I'm not sure the right one left. I heard his interview, as well; he came off as very measured. Without knowing who's advising what in FO decisions I'm not sure Kent or Kurt or Joe is the one that should be staying in the FO.
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He's like Jordan poole who can play defense.
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The kid passed the eyeball test. That's for sure. Then I checked the stat sheet and saw him at -11 +/- (good for worst on the team). Just goes to show you how useless some of these stats are.
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vvoland wrote:bay2hk wrote:My question is how did they have Tooney higher than Richard?
I know one of Lacob’s son is in charge of international scouting and they’ve been **** at it. Good riddance Kent lacob doesn’t work for the Warriors FO anymore.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves on Kent. From what the +/- guys were saying, he was one of the only guys in the FO that had the balls to disagree with the other lacobs. Sure, 3 lacobs are worse than 2 but I'm not sure the right one left. I heard his interview, as well; he came off as very measured. Without knowing who's advising what in FO decisions I'm not sure Kent or Kurt or Joe is the one that should be staying in the FO.
Yea I just know they get free trips to scout internationally on daddy’s dime. Anyone else would have been fired 10 years ago.
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Old_Blue wrote:The kid passed the eyeball test. That's for sure. Then I checked the stat sheet and saw him at -11 +/- (good for worst on the team). Just goes to show you how useless some of these stats are.
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
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vvoland wrote:TB wrote:Braun is coming off a season averaging 15 a game with an absolutely absurd TS%, absurd advanced stats, and solid defense and nonstop energy. And even that only got him 25m a year.
Camara and Daniels are two of the best defensive players in the league with some offensive skills too…. Sharpe is gonna score 20 a game probably…
Only Keegan Murray fleeced his team on an extension… and it was the Kings obviously.
I don’t get why we are assuming Podz is just instantly going to get a deal making him severely overpaid. And if he has a season anywhere near as good as Braun we would GLADLY give him 30m… but that almost certainly is not happening.
There is about zero reasons to trade Podz or Moody considering we have zero depth at SF or PG, positions they can cover.
And since this is a Richard thread, i’ll also mention that there isn’t a reason to trade people just to get guys like Richard or Seth or Melton etc minutes… depth is good!
Sure. But he also can't dribble, create for himself or others, can only score in transition or when being spoon fed by Jokic.
Podz, while having almost the exact opposite skills, is also a valuable player and I doubt he'd get less than Braun did. Braun also got overpaid because he's one of the few draft picks that found success in Den but, with Podz, we may have the same problem.
I would take Braun over Podz 8 days a week. He can most definitely dribble and more importantly he plays defense and can FINISH at the rim!
Now on to, Will Richard, he has looked good so far but let's pump the brakes a little bit. Everybody was gushing over TJD and Post and it's looking like both may have peaked in their rookie season.
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marthafokker wrote:Old_Blue wrote:The kid passed the eyeball test. That's for sure. Then I checked the stat sheet and saw him at -11 +/- (good for worst on the team). Just goes to show you how useless some of these stats are.
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
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TB wrote:marthafokker wrote:Old_Blue wrote:The kid passed the eyeball test. That's for sure. Then I checked the stat sheet and saw him at -11 +/- (good for worst on the team). Just goes to show you how useless some of these stats are.
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
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marthafokker wrote:TB wrote:marthafokker wrote:
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
He was getting blown by on the regular.
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TB wrote:marthafokker wrote:Old_Blue wrote:The kid passed the eyeball test. That's for sure. Then I checked the stat sheet and saw him at -11 +/- (good for worst on the team). Just goes to show you how useless some of these stats are.
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
That's pretty much what Podz did and should do on most nights. Nothing spectacular, just typical connector stuff. Some praise him for it, others think he's awful. But he had a nice game where he didn't try to do too much or force the issue.
Richard had a fine game and the +/- is almost entirely in the <4 mins he played in the 4th. No one is saying he had a great night, just excited to see a rookie not be completely lost out there. That said, he's an older rookie and it makes sense he'd be better at fitting in considering his spot in FLA.
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whatisacenter wrote:marthafokker wrote:TB wrote:
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
He was getting blown by on the regular.
He has severe limitations on defense, especially on-ball. Pretty decent off-ball and in passing lanes. Great defensive rebounder. It all matters.
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vvoland wrote:whatisacenter wrote:marthafokker wrote:
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
He was getting blown by on the regular.
He has severe limitations on defense, especially on-ball. Pretty decent off-ball and in passing lanes. Great defensive rebounder. It all matters.
Remember Danny Fortson? Great rebounder. Did his contribution matters? He had no Butler or Curry next to him though.
Oh... forgot David Lee... another great rebounder... play no D. And played with Curry too. He got benched for Dray.
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marthafokker wrote:TB wrote:marthafokker wrote:
Right? I saw the lineup... and knew his +/- stunk. Lucky he got a few minutes with Curry... would have been worse.
Just like someone saying Podz had a great game just looking at his +/-... only our eyes saw he stunk all night.
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
Of course I watch defense. We all already know that Podz and Steph can’t stay in front of people without help or funneling/switching on screens. But the gameplan was to switch and/or funnel into help to not let anyone beat us from 3. He also rebounded well, had a steal, and took a charge. These are ways to cover for his limitations and he did that.
And why is it a big deal if he got taken out for GP2 to lock in on defense closing games? GP2 is a great defender so I’m glad we have that option, but its not a knock on Podz.
As for running backup PG… him and Jimmy paired together for all backup PG moments without Steph and we WON those minutes slowing the games pace down.
When he has a truly bad game i’ll talk about what he did wrong. But using every thread to talk about Kerr as his “daddy” or reference how he wants to be a face of the franchise (god forbid!) is kind of strange.
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whatisacenter wrote:vvoland wrote:TB wrote:Braun is coming off a season averaging 15 a game with an absolutely absurd TS%, absurd advanced stats, and solid defense and nonstop energy. And even that only got him 25m a year.
Camara and Daniels are two of the best defensive players in the league with some offensive skills too…. Sharpe is gonna score 20 a game probably…
Only Keegan Murray fleeced his team on an extension… and it was the Kings obviously.
I don’t get why we are assuming Podz is just instantly going to get a deal making him severely overpaid. And if he has a season anywhere near as good as Braun we would GLADLY give him 30m… but that almost certainly is not happening.
There is about zero reasons to trade Podz or Moody considering we have zero depth at SF or PG, positions they can cover.
And since this is a Richard thread, i’ll also mention that there isn’t a reason to trade people just to get guys like Richard or Seth or Melton etc minutes… depth is good!
Sure. But he also can't dribble, create for himself or others, can only score in transition or when being spoon fed by Jokic.
Podz, while having almost the exact opposite skills, is also a valuable player and I doubt he'd get less than Braun did. Braun also got overpaid because he's one of the few draft picks that found success in Den but, with Podz, we may have the same problem.
I would take Braun over Podz 8 days a week. He can most definitely dribble and more importantly he plays defense and can FINISH at the rim!
Now on to, Will Richard, he has looked good so far but let's pump the brakes a little bit. Everybody was gushing over TJD and Post and it's looking like both may have peaked in their rookie season.
Oh hell yes Braun over Podz.
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TB wrote:marthafokker wrote:TB wrote:
Podz played fine. He missed a few 3s and thats pretty much all he did negatively, but even then we want him taking those.
Kept the ball moving, rebounded well, had a steal, took a charge, scored from all 3 levels, should have had another bucket if not for a bad call on a charge. Perfectly fine role player game while other players carried the scoring load.
Guess you don't watch defense then. He got so bad his "daddy" had to bench him late in the 4th. He played no D all night.
And when he was running as backup pg, he dribble half the shot clock away doing nothing.
Of course I watch defense. We all already know that Podz and Steph can’t stay in front of people without help or funneling/switching on screens. But the gameplan was to switch and/or funnel into help to not let anyone beat us from 3. He also rebounded well, had a steal, and took a charge. These are ways to cover for his limitations and he did that.
And why is it a big deal if he got taken out for GP2 to lock in on defense closing games? GP2 is a great defender so I’m glad we have that option, but its not a knock on Podz.
As for running backup PG… him and Jimmy paired together for all backup PG moments without Steph and we WON those minutes slowing the games pace down.
When he has a truly bad game i’ll talk about what he did wrong. But using every thread to talk about Kerr as his “daddy” or reference how he wants to be a face of the franchise (god forbid!) is kind of strange.
If it was JK or Moody, they get benched... Pod does the same... Kerr makes excuses for him and keeps playing him.
I make fun of him because he called himself the "Next Franchise" player on press day. And management treats him like it.
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marthafokker wrote:vvoland wrote:whatisacenter wrote:
He was getting blown by on the regular.
He has severe limitations on defense, especially on-ball. Pretty decent off-ball and in passing lanes. Great defensive rebounder. It all matters.
Remember Danny Fortson? Great rebounder. Did his contribution matters? He had no Butler or Curry next to him though.
Oh... forgot David Lee... another great rebounder... play no D. And played with Curry too. He got benched for Dray.
He's nothing like either of those guys. For one, he's a much better off-ball defender than either of them. He's solid in rotation, makes good reads, and is often in passing lanes or digging down on post players. One of the leading charge takers in the league. Good defensive rebounder. Those are all aspects of defense that are harder to gauge than on-ball defense. I think most people dismiss the latter when focusing on the former. Both matter.
Offensively, he's a connector, not a lead ball handler or scorer. That's fine and, for this team, more valuable than for most other ones. Again, the people calling him an all-star are off base, i think. Him calling himself the next franchise player or saying the older guys looked up to him last summer is a tad much. That said, I'd rather have someone overconfident than not.
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marthafokker wrote:vvoland wrote:whatisacenter wrote:
He was getting blown by on the regular.
He has severe limitations on defense, especially on-ball. Pretty decent off-ball and in passing lanes. Great defensive rebounder. It all matters.
Remember Danny Fortson? Great rebounder. Did his contribution matters? He had no Butler or Curry next to him though.
Oh... forgot David Lee... another great rebounder... play no D. And played with Curry too. He got benched for Dray.
Fortson and Lee did not help the team rebounding percentage. They were fake rebounders who sacrificed fg% defense to have chances at easy boards.
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Total Rebounding ON Court OFF Court Net
Lee (2010-11) 47.2% 49.2% -2.0%
Podz (2024-25) 51.8% 51.3% +0.5%
Lee made a below average rebounding team worse.
Podz makes an above average rebounding team better.
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I'm not much of a Podz fan but he likely has more value to the Warriors than anyone else. He knows the system enough and can eat minutes during the regular season. He's the type of player you use for what he is and then let walk when the contract is up.
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CS707 wrote:I'm not much of a Podz fan but he likely has more value to the Warriors than anyone else. He knows the system enough and can eat minutes during the regular season. He's the type of player you use for what he is and then let walk when the contract is up.
Well... Utah wanted him more than JK. So he has value... until people sees he is a Walmart DeVincenzo that will cost more.
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