World Series Pre-Series Discussion

[Parataxis]

I can't help but think that the views on this team in 20 years are going to be SO DIFFERENT from the views in the present.

Right now, for most of the season, we were considered underdogs, and winning the division, let alone the pennant was a 'surprise'.

20 years from now, people are going to be saying "Well of course they won, look at that roster!" "They had multiple HOFers, nearly half the team had Gold Gloves, and everybody could play anywhere!"

I think that collectively, our memory will drift and we'll forget the Cinderella story, and people will be convinced that they were always the favourites in the AL.

Memory is weird.

[Randle McMurphy]

I can't help but think that the views on this team in 20 years are going to be SO DIFFERENT from the views in the present.

Right now, for most of the season, we were considered underdogs, and winning the division, let alone the pennant was a 'surprise'.

20 years from now, people are going to be saying "Well of course they won, look at that roster!" "They had multiple HOFers, nearly half the team had Gold Gloves, and everybody could play anywhere!"

I think that collectively, our memory will drift and we'll forget the Cinderella story, and people will be convinced that they were always the favourites in the AL.

Memory is weird.

I’ll always remember the truth.

[JaysRule15]

I think if we somehow win this world series, we'll always be seen as this Cinderella team regardless of who we had on the roster.

Ohtani is gonna go down as all-time great. The best baseball player in the last 100 years. The fact we beat him in the playoffs for a championship will probably always be an underdog story.

[Madvillainy2004]

I think if we somehow win this world series, we'll always be seen as this Cinderella team regardless of who we had on the roster.

Ohtani is gonna go down as all-time great. The best baseball player in the last 100 years. The fact we beat him in the playoffs for a championship will probably always be an underdog story.

The 03 Marlins prophecy is almost complete i got the script back in June

[Randle McMurphy]

Projected 26 man roster assuming Bichette is healthy enough to at least hit/run:

C: Kirk
1B: Vlad
2B: Clement
SS: Gimenez
3B: Barger
LF: Lukes
CF: Varsho
RF: Springer
DH: Bichette

Bench: Heineman, IKF, Schneider, Straw

Missing: Loperfido, France

SP: Gausman
SP: Yesavage
SP: Bieber
SP: Scherzer

RP: Hoffman
RP: Dominguez
RP: Varland
RP: Fisher
RP: Bassitt
RP: Rodríguez
RP: Fluharty
RP: Lauer
RP: Little

Missing: Nance, Bruihl

I think Bichette replacing Loperfido is pretty likely if he makes it, though I could see them removing a pitcher too (probably Yariel).

There’s also the possibility Bruihl could replace Yariel too given how dangerous the LHBs on the Dodgers are.

[Mehar]

I think if we somehow win this world series, we'll always be seen as this Cinderella team regardless of who we had on the roster.

Ohtani is gonna go down as all-time great. The best baseball player in the last 100 years. The fact we beat him in the playoffs for a championship will probably always be an underdog story.

The 03 Marlins prophecy is almost complete i got the script back in June

Not one single so called MLB analyst had the Marlins beating the Power house Yankees that year. 22 years later history will repeat itself. Destiny and the Hand of God are with the Jays.

Jays will do what the Marlins did to the Yankees. Looking forward to seeing the World Series Parade on Yonge Street, just like I did 32 years ago when I was a Child.

[Raps in 4]

I think if we somehow win this world series, we'll always be seen as this Cinderella team regardless of who we had on the roster.

Ohtani is gonna go down as all-time great. The best baseball player in the last 100 years. The fact we beat him in the playoffs for a championship will probably always be an underdog story.

The 03 Marlins prophecy is almost complete i got the script back in June

Not one single so called MLB analyst had the Marlins beating the Power house Yankees that year. 22 years later history will repeat itself. Destiny and the Hand of God are with the Jays.

Jays will do what the Marlins did to the Yankees. Looking forward to seeing the World Series Parade on Yonge Street, just like I did 32 years ago when I was a Child.

Pundits picked us to badly lose both the ALDS abd ALCS. These guys are clueless.

[WuTang_CMB]

baseball is so random, more than any other sport
better teams on paper lose all the time
any team can go on a cold or hot hitting streak

I think this series is a toss up to be honest

and a lot of luck will be in play to determine the winner

[JN]

Has this trend been posted?

Since LCS has gone to best of 7

There have been four other times when a 4-3 LCS winner has faced a 4-0 LCS winner. Each time the 4-3 LCS winner has won the World Series.
1988 (LAD), 2006 (STL), 2007 (Bos), 2012 (SF)


Positive vibes

That 1988 World Series is one of the bigger upsets I remember. Their lineup was terrible I can retain stuff from when I was a kid, but don't ask me anything about those 2006, 2007 or 2012 series.

The 1988 Athletics were a developing powerhouse and the Dodgers had a pathetic offence without Kirk Gibson, They did have Orel Hershiser who was ridiculously good that year.

Here are the WAR's of the Dodgers WS starters during the regular season.

C - Scioscia 2.0
1b - Stubbs -0.1 (negative WAR)
2b - Sax 2.1
Ss - Alfredo Griffin 0.3
3b - Hamilton 0.7
LF - Davis -0.8 (Negative)
CF - Shelby 2.5
RF - Marshall 2.4
DH - Hatcher 0.4

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Top10alltime]

Has this trend been posted?

Since LCS has gone to best of 7

There have been four other times when a 4-3 LCS winner has faced a 4-0 LCS winner. Each time the 4-3 LCS winner has won the World Series.
1988 (LAD), 2006 (STL), 2007 (Bos), 2012 (SF)


Positive vibes

This will only happen if the Dodgers have choked. I'm not sad, I'm glad we've gotten this far but I know we'll lose in 4.

It'll be an embarrassment if the Dodgers even as so much let 2 home runs go in a game. We barely got past a team that has never made the World Series (only team to not do this), and we were losing until an injured Springer hit a 3 run HR (that's how trash Seattle is outside of Cal who isn't better than Vladi).

It's all on the Dodgers, and I expect the media to clown them fully if they lose even a single game. It's that much in their favour. I'm rooting for the Jays, but there is little to no hope.

Warning has been issued for repeating your negative takes about the team despite being told not to do so and to wait for the game before you post your opinions. The next one will be a suspension from the board.

-JaysRule15

[LLJ]

I can't help but think that the views on this team in 20 years are going to be SO DIFFERENT from the views in the present.

Right now, for most of the season, we were considered underdogs, and winning the division, let alone the pennant was a 'surprise'.

20 years from now, people are going to be saying "Well of course they won, look at that roster!" "They had multiple HOFers, nearly half the team had Gold Gloves, and everybody could play anywhere!"

I think that collectively, our memory will drift and we'll forget the Cinderella story, and people will be convinced that they were always the favourites in the AL.

Memory is weird.

It also depends on how some of the lesser known guys on this team play moving forward. Many people now realize the 2019 Raps were stacked, and a lot of the younger bench guys later become 20ppg scorers. So now people say "well of course they won. They had Gasol and Green and Ibaka and future stars like Siakam and FVV, solid 2 way scorers like Norm etc etc"

[Parataxis]

Aparently the SkyDom is as far from Union Station as Dodger Stadium is from the furthest part of its parking lot.

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[Parataxis]

Has this trend been posted?

Since LCS has gone to best of 7

There have been four other times when a 4-3 LCS winner has faced a 4-0 LCS winner. Each time the 4-3 LCS winner has won the World Series.
1988 (LAD), 2006 (STL), 2007 (Bos), 2012 (SF)


Positive vibes

This will only happen if the Dodgers have choked. I'm not sad, I'm glad we've gotten this far but I know we'll lose in 4.

It'll be an embarrassment if the Dodgers even as so much let 2 home runs go in a game. We barely got past a team that has never made the World Series (only team to not do this), and we were losing until an injured Springer hit a 3 run HR (that's how trash Seattle is outside of Cal who isn't better than Vladi).

It's all on the Dodgers, and I expect the media to clown them fully if they lose even a single game. It's that much in their favour. I'm rooting for the Jays, but there is little to no hope.

Didn't you already do your airport departure announcement?

[ItsDanger]

Ohtani has pitched 528 innings so far. He's 31 already. In the old days that was 2.5 seasons maybe. Longevity matters when discussing all time greats.

Randy Johnson 4,135 innings
Greg Maddux 5,008 innings
Clayton Kershaw 2,855 innings

So his pitching performance has been good but it's over a relatively short period of time. Barry Bonds was a more dangerous hitter.

[Madvillainy2004]

Ohtani has pitched 528 innings so far. He's 31 already. In the old days that was 2.5 seasons maybe. Longevity matters when discussing all time greats.

Randy Johnson 4,135 innings
Greg Maddux 5,008 innings
Clayton Kershaw 2,855 innings

So his pitching performance has been good but it's over a relatively short period of time. Barry Bonds was a more dangerous hitter.

I dont think people think Ohtani is an all time great pitcher tbh his rate stats/pure stuff are elite tho. But it's the combination of being a top 2 hitter while being one of the best per inning pitchers in the sport. Its a combination of talent thats made even more crazy with how specialized baseball has become too. They took out pitchers hitting in the NL cause for like 100 years they were so bad. Hes the most talented player to ever play the game and I dont think its up to debate lol

[And1Skip]

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Casey and Floyd arguing about a non-issue. They are assuming if Bo has to DH that Springer will have to play RF. If Lukes starts, then he plays RF, SPringer LF, Barger 3B, Clement 2B. If Schneider starts (vs Snell) then he will play 2B, Barger stays at RF, and Springer is LF again. But yes, it is an issue if Springer is not healthy enough to play in the field.

[bluerap23]

Projected 26 man roster assuming Bichette is healthy enough to at least hit/run:

C: Kirk
1B: Vlad
2B: Clement
SS: Gimenez
3B: Barger
LF: Lukes
CF: Varsho
RF: Springer
DH: Bichette

Bench: Heineman, IKF, Schneider, Straw

Missing: Loperfido, France

SP: Gausman
SP: Yesavage
SP: Bieber
SP: Scherzer

RP: Hoffman
RP: Dominguez
RP: Varland
RP: Fisher
RP: Bassitt
RP: Rodríguez
RP: Fluharty
RP: Lauer
RP: Little

Missing: Nance, Bruihl

I think Bichette replacing Loperfido is pretty likely if he makes it, though I could see them removing a pitcher too (probably Yariel).

There’s also the possibility Bruihl could replace Yariel too given how dangerous the LHBs on the Dodgers are.

Lukes in right and Springer in left but otherwise agree. I'd also consider putting in Nance for Little. I just don't think I can trust Little to pitch to 3 batters in any leverage scenario until next season.

[WuTang_CMB]

Trey starting game 1

[T-d0t]

Key to this series is work their starters and expose their bullpen right?