Best NL Shortstop?
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risktaker91 wrote:On another note, who's the best AL shortstop? Is it still Derek Jeter?
It really may be...which is sad to say. Carlos Guillen changed positions, Tejada went to the NL, ARod is over at 3rd, Nomar is long gone, and Peralta never lived up to the hype. There really isn't much competition so Jeter kind of gets it by default.
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Where exactly are saving singles and producing singles a zero-sum effect? I'd imagine that such a concept would manifest itself in any number of the WARP derivatives and would give a rather closer value for the two players.
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Where exactly are saving singles and producing singles a zero-sum effect?
How isn't it?
I'd imagine that such a concept would manifest itself in any number of the WARP derivatives and would give a rather closer value for the two players.
If you are talking about WARP, I really wouldn't trust the defensive ratings they use. Just go look at how amazing Johnny Peralta is because of those defensive metrics.
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studcrackers wrote:if michael young could regain some power this year he's in the conversation w/jeter, both are horrific defensive SS though and young will probably be moved once elvis andrus gets the call up in a couple years.
Young did slip my mind, he is the closest to Jeter...if he can regain his old form he'd be better.
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bigboy1234 wrote:How isn't it?
Why would it be? You're assuming that the baseline defensive ability to prevent a single has a same value as the baseline ability to hit a single. I'd hazard a guess that, normalized, preventing a single is a much easier action that hitting a single.
Have any research suggesting otherwise? I'd like to read it if so.
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Why would it be? You're assuming that the baseline defensive ability to prevent a single has a same value as the baseline ability to hit a single. I'd hazard a guess that, normalized, preventing a single is a much easier action that hitting a single.
Have any research suggesting otherwise? I'd like to read it if so.
It doesn't matter how hard it is to do the thing, the outcome is the same, one bag. Bunting for a hit could be harder/easier than actually swinging for a hit but it doesn't matter, the outcome is the same, as long as you get a bag.
At least thats the way I see it, although I see where your coming from. With the the fielding being an average of all the SS, and OPS not being be, although I still think I'm right, but could be wrong. Damn man, go recruit some sabermetricians for the site.
But first, no one is saying that Derek Jeter is a lousy player. Let
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It doesn't matter how hard it is to do the thing, the outcome is the same, one bag. Bunting for a hit could be harder/easier than actually swinging for a hit but it doesn't matter, the outcome is the same, as long as you get a bag.
At least thats the way I see it, although I see where your coming from. With the the fielding being an average of all the SS, and OPS not being be, although I still think I'm right, but could be wrong. Damn man, go recruit some sabermetricians for the site.
As far as I can tell, fielding runs in FRAA and FRAR along with other run-tallying fielding metrics aren
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