The Draft Thread

Triumph36 · Post #601 » by **Triumph36** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:40 pm

tidho wrote:Can someone explain why Toronto wouldn't take Jonas at #5?

Some seem to think he's really going to slip because he won't be in the NBA for another season.

Obviously that's idiotic, as no team in the top 10 is going to be at all relevant next year anyway IF there even is a season.

If he's there, the Raps SHOULD pick him. But with him not coming over for a year and them needing help at PG and SF too, it's not that unbelievable to see them pass on him esp given their GM.

gflem · Post #602 » by **gflem** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:05 pm

The seem to like Knight a whole lot as well. According to todays wiretap, but that has been out there for a while.

GhostsOfGil · Post #603 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:08 pm

wiz fans have kanter #1 on our draft board. parting with the 18 is tough but i think its a good trade for both sides...if kanter is there at 4 and jonas there at 6

Post #604 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:40 am

Jonas V is out for a year. I'd think he's lost some attractiveness to the Cavs.

Triumph36 · Post #605 » by **Triumph36** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:07 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:wiz fans have kanter #1 on our draft board. parting with the 18 is tough but i think its a good trade for both sides...if kanter is there at 4 and jonas there at 6

Yeah, I still think there's a really good chance Utah takes Kanter at #3, which screws the trade up. Well, you guys would still have a shot at Kanter, but we'd have to take Jonas at #4.

TheOUTLAW wrote:Jonas V is out for a year. I'd think he's lost some attractiveness to the Cavs.

I sure as hell hope not.

patrol345 · Post #606 » by **patrol345** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:41 am

might be the wrong thread just throwing it out there, LA trades pau gasol for the number 2 pick, then trade yall the number 2 pick, and character for the number 4, a late first or second, and jj hickson, then they trade denver hickson and the late first or second for felton. would yall move the number 4 and hickson to get the number 2 or is that too much?

BossHoggin · Post #607 » by **BossHoggin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:31 am

patrol345 wrote:might be the wrong thread just throwing it out there, LA trades pau gasol for the number 2 pick, then trade yall the number 2 pick, and character for the number 4, a late first or second, and jj hickson, then they trade denver hickson and the late first or second for felton. would yall move the number 4 and hickson to get the number 2 or is that too much?

No.

Triumph36 · Post #608 » by **Triumph36** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:01 pm

oh look, the team with one of the best, if not THE best, scouting departments in the league wants to trade up and take Jonas. rumor has it they're even willing to trade one of their big 3 to make it happen.

Cavs definitely can't wait a year for Jonas then. no way. they need a player to lead them back to the lottery again next year....can't have him overseas.

Roger Murdock · Post #609 » by **Roger Murdock** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:02 pm

Apparently Minnesota is going to take Kanter #2 overall. I think thats pretty damn stupid of them, but I have yet to agree with a major decision Kahn has made since taking over as GM.

Is there any way Utah passes on Williams? They have quite a log jam at PF.

CarrKeefe · Post #610 » by **CarrKeefe** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:44 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:Is there any way Utah passes on Williams? They have quite a log jam at PF.

There is NO way the Jazz pass on Williams. None. The Jazz would utilize Williams as a SF alongside Favors and Jefferson. If Minnesota is stupid enough to pass on Williams, I promise you Utah will not.

gflem · Post #611 » by **gflem** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:11 am

Really throws a monkey wrench to things if Minny does take Kanter. OR, could they be posturing to lure the Cavs or Washington to up the ante for the 2nd pick? Either way its getting interesting.
I love this time of year.

Triumph36 · Post #612 » by **Triumph36** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:11 am

They really don't have a logjam. Favors and Jefferson can play Center, especially since Okur is supposed to be out a long time. But even so, Jefferson only has 2yrs left anyway at which point Williams would be 22, still very young.

Basically, Utah will be able to go forward with a bigs rotation of Favors, Millsap, and Williams (or Kanter, whom I think they'll pick if he's there at 3). That's damn good.

Roger Murdock · Post #613 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:46 am

I think that Jefferson, Milsapp, Favors, and Williams are all powerforwards. That seems like a log jam to me. Sure Jefferson can play center but he sucks at defense. I dont think Favors can play center.

tidho · Post #614 » by **tidho** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:18 pm

Does SI's official mock of Tristan Thompson at #4 scare the crap out of anybody else?
I certainly hope that the Cavaliers wouldn't be so short sighted as to pass on Valanciunas because of one (likely shortened) season, for a 6-8'' PF that will spend that same season on the bench behind AV, Hickson, and Jamison.

gflem · Post #615 » by **gflem** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:40 pm

Move down before Thompson. Lots of smoke being blown around at this point.

Roger Murdock · Post #616 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:44 pm

If we take Thompson at 4 I will scream. At the end of the day I think we end up with another Lotto pick and take him and Val.

Best case scenerio for today:

1. Irving
4. Valanciunous
7/8. Thompson

Get that pick and a 2012 first rounder by packaging Hickson and Sessions.

Triumph36 · Post #617 » by **Triumph36** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:13 pm

So the Cavs want Tyrus Thomas 2.0 at best. Oh, and they want to replace the best player on the team from last season who is....22.

Seems like there is some idiom here.... green grass, the other side, etc.

Roger Murdock · Post #618 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:53 pm

Hickson is not our best player. Varejao, Jamison, and Baron are all better players. Hickson is fools gold and I would love to trade him for something valuable.

tidho · Post #619 » by **tidho** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:03 pm

Well at least now the rumo mill has the interest in Thompson connected to the acquisition of a third lottery pick.

Triumph36 · Post #620 » by **Triumph36** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:15 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:Hickson is not our best player. Varejao, Jamison, and Baron are all better players. Hickson is fools gold and I would love to trade him for something valuable.

I said best player from last season.

The former two missed half the year and the latter played less than 1/4 of the season in Cleveland. JJ was the best Cavalier last year.