Ray Allen To Sign With Miami

betterdayz02 · Post #541 » by **betterdayz02** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:25 am

big_ticket wrote:makes me sick...

but i still respect ray..

Which is the right way to go about it, You can feel sick and disappointed but that shouldn't make you forget all the big shots Ray has hit for the Celtics.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0nutnhQqnE[/youtube]

Celtics>Breathing · Post #542 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:25 am

"‘The one thing that bothers me the most is guys taking big pay cuts for a year to go down there and try to win a championship,’ Bird told ESPN. ‘There’s a lot of guys who like to ride the coattails of the best and they’ll take a pay cut just to have an opportunity to win that ring.’"
…Larry Bird

FlashKing · Post #543 » by **FlashKing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:26 am

supremacy wrote:
FlashKing wrote:
This is just my opinion but 2 years isn't enough to hang someone's jersey to the rafters. 5 years is a different story.

Is Haslem getting his number retired by Miami then?

Yes.

Illogicality · Post #544 » by **Illogicality** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:26 am

I highly doubt Ray Allen cares whether or not the Celtics retire his number. He's not going to lose sleep over that for sure.

Celtics>Breathing · Post #545 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:27 am

betterdayz02 wrote:
big_ticket wrote:makes me sick...

but i still respect ray..

Which is the right way to go about it, You can feel sick and disappointed but that shouldn't make you forget all the big shots Ray has hit for the Celtics.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0nutnhQqnE[/youtube]

BS....

Taking more money is business. Taking less money is personal. Ray's better than this ****. I can't wait till KG elbow's his a$$.

Tave · Post #546 » by **Tave** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:27 am

smith2373 wrote:
Tave wrote:
smith2373 wrote:Except there's a difference. Garnett is better than Steamer & Sullinger and a better fit with the starting lineup.

Avery wasn't named starter over Ray as a punishment to Ray or anything like that. Avery was named a starter because he was a better fit with the starting lineup because of defensive purposes and how great the chemistry was between him and Rondo. Adding to the fact that the Celtics bench scoring was awful and bringing Ray off the bench as the 6th man benefited that a lot. People also love to leave out how even though he came off the bench, Ray still played more minutes than Avery. During the last 5 minutes of a close game during crunch time when Ray was available, he was playing. Every game.

You're ignoring the Terry signing. The Celtics are obviously moving in a different direction from Ray.

Now this is Doc's words, not mine but Doc's plan was for Terry to be backup PG and Ray to be backup SG. I don't know how that would've worked but that was Doc's plan.

I don't have a problem with Ray leaving, I really don't. But some people make it seem like Ray was playing 10 minutes a game while Avery played 40. Only thing that changed was that Avery started off the games and Ray would come in 5 minutes into the game, Ray would still end up playing more minutes than Avery and still closed the games out. Think of it like Harden & Sefolosha.

The move to Bradley only happened towards the end of the year, so of course the Celtics weren't going to do anything too drastic and ruin their team chemistry. Plus Bradley was battling injuries and they were gearing up for the playoffs. I think it's pretty clear the Celtics are hoping to make him a bigger part of the team in the future and that if he stays healthy and plays well his role will only increase.

The Celtics have been looking for a quality backup for Rondo forever, and I'm sure Terry can help relieve some of that pressure every once in a while, but either way Rondo is still going to play 35+ mpg and you can be sure they didn't sign Terry to play 13 mpg. Him and Ray would have been competing for minutes.

It's a little shortsided to just look at Ray's minutes this year and assume he would have the same role 1-2 years down the line. The facts remain that they seem to want Bradley as a starter at SG, they tried to deal Ray for a younger SG during the season, and when that didn't work they went out and signed another SG during free agency.

smith2373 · Post #547 » by **smith2373** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:28 am

betterdayz02 wrote:
big_ticket wrote:makes me sick...

but i still respect ray..

Which is the right way to go about it, You can feel sick and disappointed but that shouldn't make you forget all the big shots Ray has hit for the Celtics.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0nutnhQqnE[/youtube]

Oh yeah that was a great game by Ray in game 2 of the 2010 Finals, now how about you play his highlights of game 3 & 4 where he breaks the NBA Finals record for most consecutive FG misses.

betterdayz02 · Post #548 » by **betterdayz02** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:28 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:BS....

Taking more money is business. Taking less money is personal. Ray's better than this ****. I can't wait till KG elbow's his a$$.

Is that elbow before or after Miami eliminates Boston in the playoffs?

Celtics>Breathing · Post #549 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:28 am

FlashKing wrote:
supremacy wrote:
FlashKing wrote:
This is just my opinion but 2 years isn't enough to hang someone's jersey to the rafters. 5 years is a different story.

Is Haslem getting his number retired by Miami then?

Yes.

That's all you need to know about the Heat franchise.

izZo · Post #550 » by **izZo** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:28 am

@ supremacy: Both titles plus tenure hes been with the heat his entire career since 03'

Celtics>Breathing · Post #551 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:30 am

betterdayz02 wrote:
Celtics>Breathing wrote:BS....

Taking more money is business. Taking less money is personal. Ray's better than this ****. I can't wait till KG elbow's his a$$.

Is that elbow before or after Miami eliminates Boston in the playoffs?

Hey that's why they play the games punk. We shall see.....

FlashKing · Post #552 » by **FlashKing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:30 am

StojkoVrankovic wrote:
FlashKing wrote:
supremacy wrote:I could care less where he plays. I don't want someone telling me where I can and can't work. But hey, it's been real dude. You clearly can't formulate a good enough argument. The fact that you had to make something up that I never said says it all.

"Ray Allen was the least impactful out of the big 3 so he shouldn't have his jersey retired."

Yeah, GREAT ARGUMENT!

U MAD?

The only thing people are mad about is your limitations with the english language. When all of your responses revolve around "u mad" and "butthurt" it makes posting almost unbearable. I guess the bandwagon you jumped on happened to be a small yellow bus

Clearly, your limitations are reading over 3 pages worth of posts. nice try professor.

LikeABosh · Post #553 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:30 am

supremacy wrote:Impact to their title? Tenure? Both?

All of the above. Two championships, took less money to stay in miami, will probably end his career in miami (hopefully)

kblo247 · Post #554 » by **kblo247** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:31 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:

That's all you need to know about the Heat franchise.

Actually Boston ain't one to talk. They retire but players all the time lie the Spurs retired Bowen. Granted they never retired a guy that doesn't play for them(Jordan) but only the Lakers don't retire role players jerseys not matter how integral they were as they have a of requirement

izZo · Post #555 » by **izZo** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:31 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:
betterdayz02 wrote:
Celtics>Breathing wrote:BS....

Taking more money is business. Taking less money is personal. Ray's better than this ****. I can't wait till KG elbow's his a$$.

Is that elbow before or after Miami eliminates Boston in the playoffs?

Hey that's why they play the games punk. We shall see.....

FlashKing · Post #556 » by **FlashKing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:33 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:
FlashKing wrote:
supremacy wrote:
Is Haslem getting his number retired by Miami then?

Yes.

That's all you need to know about the Heat franchise.

Sorry but what are the qualifications for your jersey being retired? the man has been a co-captain of this team for years and while he wasn't an instrumental piece in our 2 title run, he was during our first. he's also a damn good defender. he deserves his number being retired.

Post #557 » by **mopper8** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:33 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:
FlashKing wrote:
supremacy wrote:
Is Haslem getting his number retired by Miami then?

Yes.

That's all you need to know about the Heat franchise.

Yeah, its not like Boston has retired the numbers of defensive role players like Satch Sanders or anything like that...oh wait...

Celtics>Breathing · Post #558 » by **Celtics>Breathing** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:34 am

The cHeats are the biggest ****ing joke team EVER in the Association. Bunch of bandwagon punks for fans.

I can't wait till the C's wipe the floor with your teams sorry a$$. Healthy Boston team beats a healthy cHeat team.

LikeABosh · Post #559 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:34 am

Celtics>Breathing wrote:That's all you need to know about the Heat franchise.

There's no need for that. He's florida's boy and he deserves his jersey to get retired. If you were a heat fan you'd realize all things he did for the team.

smith2373 · Post #560 » by **smith2373** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:35 am

mopper8 wrote:
Yeah, its not like Boston has retired the numbers of defensive role players like Satch Sanders or anything like that...oh wait...

He won 8 titles with us though...now Don Nelson on the other hand...have no clue why his number is retired.

But there's nothing wrong with Miami retiring Haslem's number. I see no problem at all, he's been playing with them for almost 10 years, been a key contributor to their team, helped them win two titles, granted he had a bigger impact in the first one but still there is absolutely nothing wrong with retiring Haslem's number.