Ray Allen To Sign With Miami

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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1241 » by HeatFanSince87 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:46 pm

NorrisColeWorld wrote:and why does everyone say repeating is so hard.Go and look at the past 20 NBA champions and how many of then repeated.Furthermore, the hate the Heat got in 2010 will NEVER be topped so Im pretty sure the addition of EVERYONES favorite Celtic who left the team as a 36 year old off of surgery is going to get everyone riled up.NO ONE cares but Celtics fans and players.



It comical. Everything we thought haters and Celtic fans would say if Ray came to Miami is spot on. "Ray is too old now" is my favorite. I have countless threads where Boston fans 100% said if Miami lands Ray it makes them unbeatable. If haters want to continue to back peddle and say they didn't say that, I can post the print screens of how now they have down a 180 on here.

Miami had 3 million and that's it.. Yet landed two players way below market value to a team that just won the championship while playing with an injured Bosh and Wade. The nets got Joe Johnson for 23 million this season? Give me Ray for 3.1 million all day.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1242 » by NorrisColeWorld » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:47 pm

I would sig beg that Ray doesnt get Boo'd in a SINGLE arena other than Bostons,and that no player other than Bostons mentions him leaving Boston as a reason for attacking him post game and that the media still refers to how classy he is and how early he shows up to the arena before every nationally televised game.

You really need to stop pretending anyone outside of Boston cares.Even the Heat hate is dying down some,LeBron won best NBA player/Male Athlete/Heat win Best Team at the ESPYS.You dont win that as the most "hated team and man in America"
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1243 » by mopper8 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:48 pm

Repeating isn't going to be easy and Ray isn't going to be the difference maker Miami thinks. They're just desperate for some of the Celtics moxy and mental toughness. It's understandable.


LOL at the idea of Miami being desperate for anything Boston has, except maybe the extra vacation time between seasons.

As others have said, NBA players understand far better than emotionally-invested fans that the league is a business. Do you think all the players who were cut or traded by Danny Ainge give a crap about Ray leaving Boston? Do you think their friends and teammates care at all either?
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1244 » by smith2373 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:51 pm

This thread should die.

Arguing over stupid ****.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1245 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:52 pm

LOL at the idea that basketball players, even ones in the NBA, don't abide by the laws of human nature. Basketball players talk different in the lockeroom, on the plane, and of course on the court compared to what they SAY in the media. These guys take COURSES on how to handle the media.

But behind closed doors these are all guys who live by principles and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys who'll look at Ray's actions and take offense. That's just HUMAN nature, doesn't mean they have to share those feelings in the public eye.

But when Ray matches up against dudes who he's had battles with in the past, guys who ALREADY didn't like Ray, you don't think some of those guys are going to talk trash to Ray about being a front runner, a traitor and a punk?

LOL at the false bravado and childish naivete of this forum.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1246 » by Time4War » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:57 pm

The Heat have the East on lock down. I look foward to the Heat beating that team again. I could care less if other teams hate the moves that we are
making. Last year proved that they can't do anything about it.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1247 » by mopper8 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:02 pm

humblebum wrote:LOL at the idea that basketball players, even ones in the NBA, don't abide by the laws of human nature. Basketball players talk different in the lockeroom, on the plane, and of course on the court compared to what they SAY in the media. These guys take COURSES on how to handle the media.

But behind closed doors these are all guys who live by principles and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys who'll look at Ray's actions and take offense. That's just HUMAN nature, doesn't mean they have to share those feelings in the public eye.

But when Ray matches up against dudes who he's had battles with in the past, guys who ALREADY didn't like Ray, you don't think some of those guys are going to talk trash to Ray about being a front runner, a traitor and a punk?

LOL at the false bravado and childish naivete of this forum.


The mistake isn't thinking basketball players aren't humans. The mistake is thinking the basketball players prize the same things you do, in the same way you do.

The mistake you're making is called ego-centricism.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1248 » by Stills12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:05 pm

^^^ Couldn't have said it any better myself.

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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1249 » by contract » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:05 pm

mopper8 wrote:
humblebum wrote:LOL at the idea that basketball players, even ones in the NBA, don't abide by the laws of human nature. Basketball players talk different in the lockeroom, on the plane, and of course on the court compared to what they SAY in the media. These guys take COURSES on how to handle the media.

But behind closed doors these are all guys who live by principles and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys who'll look at Ray's actions and take offense. That's just HUMAN nature, doesn't mean they have to share those feelings in the public eye.

But when Ray matches up against dudes who he's had battles with in the past, guys who ALREADY didn't like Ray, you don't think some of those guys are going to talk trash to Ray about being a front runner, a traitor and a punk?

LOL at the false bravado and childish naivete of this forum.


The mistake isn't thinking basketball players aren't humans. The mistake is thinking the basketball players prize the same things you do, in the same way you do.

The mistake you're making is called ego-centricism.

Opposing players will talk their trash ... and then ask Ray to put in a good word for them with Pat Riley. :lol:
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1250 » by Diggity Dave » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:05 pm

humblebum wrote:LOL at the idea that basketball players, even ones in the NBA, don't abide by the laws of human nature. Basketball players talk different in the lockeroom, on the plane, and of course on the court compared to what they SAY in the media. These guys take COURSES on how to handle the media.

But behind closed doors these are all guys who live by principles and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys who'll look at Ray's actions and take offense. That's just HUMAN nature, doesn't mean they have to share those feelings in the public eye.

But when Ray matches up against dudes who he's had battles with in the past, guys who ALREADY didn't like Ray, you don't think some of those guys are going to talk trash to Ray about being a front runner, a traitor and a punk?

LOL at the false bravado and childish naivete of this forum.


Well, he IS human, after all. I'm sure there are times where he may be intimidated, nervous, or affected in some negative manner. However, he is a SIXTEEN YEAR VETERAN who from all written accounts is mentally tough. He's not a greenhorn rookie or some young punk. I'm pretty sure at this point in his career he's heard it all on and off the court.

The only place that I figure he'll be somewhat nervous is going back to play in Boston. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure he'll shrug everything off.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1251 » by Chosen01 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:07 pm

Opposing players will be putting extra effort to stopping a 36 year old Ray because he's a "traitor" and stick up for Doc,KG and co? Did I see that right? :rofl:
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1252 » by Time4War » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:10 pm

Those same players will be wanting the VET. Minimum next year. Players put on auditions when they play the Heat. :P
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1253 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:11 pm

Spoken like a true Miami Heat fan in denial.

Let's see what type of physical battles Ray gets in next season and let's also see how he's treated by fans around the league.

I'll guarantee RIGHT NOW dudes are going to come at Ray with a little more juice as a result of him: being a former star and young guys coming at him to boost themselves, playing as a front runner on the defending champs, and because certain guys around the league have had a dislike for Ray Allen that now has an accepted place in the NBA.

Ray is no longer held in the same regard by fans (plenty of fans of other franchises have posted on the Celtics forum to say THEY really DID lose respect for Ray) and playing for the Heat (not a well liked team even though Bron earned a lot of respect from game 6 moving forward) he's going to have a target on his back constantly.

The fact that he's the oldest and the least durable "former" member of the Big 3... I think he's naturally going to be a player who opponents and fans will try to break down physically, which is exactly the strategy that the HEAT and other teams have used against him.

The truly interesting thing is that Miami fans and NBA fans thought Ray was done every year since the Celtics traded for him but now he's the savior in Miami. Or is it just that the bright lights and stars in Miami will shine for Ray, feeding him his treys on a silver platter? And those treys will be worth the lack of athleticism, the age, the lack of durability and his poor dribbling, passing and defense?
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1254 » by Pimpwerx » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:13 pm

humblebum wrote:Ray Allen is going to be so disappointing for Heat and their fans... Let's see how his old tired behind holds up after another 82 games trying to repeat with the enemy. Everyone is going to go at the Heat and no one likes a traitor and a ring chaser so EVERYONE is coming for his trick turning a$$. Ray is going to get dogged out, chewed up and spit out by the Association this season. Can't wait to see him get locked up in the playoffs once again.

Ray experiencing failure in Miami is going to be so, sweet. The look on his face when he's heading back to the locker room as the ultimate loser, priceless.

Pump those brakes. Mopper got the term right when he said you're projecting. You're projecting all your anger on other people. Professional athletes understand the game is a business. There won't be any hard feelings towards Ray outside Boston. Look at Lebron. The most-hated guy in the league, supposedly, yet your own head coach wishes him good luck on winning the championship, right after getting bounced. Fans are the ones who get emotional. Players just go to work. PEACE.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1255 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:16 pm

Most overrated signing of the offseason both from the standpoint of Boston/Miami. Losing him in Boston is NO BIG DEAL and they were ready to replace him several times but couldn't seal the deal. Bradley replaced him in the starting line and Terry is a better fit for the Celtics roster because he can put the ball on the floor and CREATE a shot, unlike Ray (I understand he's not going to have to CREATE in Miami...) Both of these guys are uber clutch and deadly shooting the ball and Terry is the better defender/athlete. He's also younger.

Ray is just like having another Miller, Jones or Battier spotting up and at his age and coming off injuries to his ankles once again there's no guarantee he'll even be better than Battier/Miller were this season.
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1256 » by NickPapagiorgio » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:19 pm

humblebum wrote:Spoken like a true Miami Heat fan in denial.

Let's see what type of physical battles Ray gets in next season and let's also see how he's treated by fans around the league.

I'll guarantee RIGHT NOW dudes are going to come at Ray with a little more juice as a result of him: being a former star and young guys coming at him to boost themselves, playing as a front runner on the defending champs, and because certain guys around the league have had a dislike for Ray Allen that now has an accepted place in the NBA.

Ray is no longer held in the same regard by fans (plenty of fans of other franchises have posted on the Celtics forum to say THEY really DID lose respect for Ray) and playing for the Heat (not a well liked team even though Bron earned a lot of respect from game 6 moving forward) he's going to have a target on his back constantly.

The fact that he's the oldest and the least durable "former" member of the Big 3... I think he's naturally going to be a player who opponents and fans will try to break down physically, which is exactly the strategy that the HEAT and other teams have used against him.

The truly interesting thing is that Miami fans and NBA fans thought Ray was done every year since the Celtics traded for him but now he's the savior in Miami. Or is it just that the bright lights and stars in Miami will shine for Ray, feeding him his treys on a silver platter? And those treys will be worth the lack of athleticism, the age, the lack of durability and his poor dribbling, passing and defense?


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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1257 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:19 pm

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humblebum wrote:Ray Allen is going to be so disappointing for Heat and their fans... Let's see how his old tired behind holds up after another 82 games trying to repeat with the enemy. Everyone is going to go at the Heat and no one likes a traitor and a ring chaser so EVERYONE is coming for his trick turning a$$. Ray is going to get dogged out, chewed up and spit out by the Association this season. Can't wait to see him get locked up in the playoffs once again.

Ray experiencing failure in Miami is going to be so, sweet. The look on his face when he's heading back to the locker room as the ultimate loser, priceless.

Pump those brakes. Mopper got the term right when he said you're projecting. You're projecting all your anger on other people. Professional athletes understand the game is a business. There won't be any hard feelings towards Ray outside Boston. Look at Lebron. The most-hated guy in the league, supposedly, yet your own head coach wishes him good luck on winning the championship, right after getting bounced. Fans are the ones who get emotional. Players just go to work. PEACE.


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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1258 » by insfo » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:21 pm

humblebum wrote:Most overrated signing of the offseason both from the standpoint of Boston/Miami. Losing him in Boston is NO BIG DEAL and they were ready to replace him several times but couldn't seal the deal. Bradley replaced him in the starting line and Terry is a better fit for the Celtics roster because he can put the ball on the floor and CREATE a shot, unlike Ray (I understand he's not going to have to CREATE in Miami...) Both of these guys are uber clutch and deadly shooting the ball and Terry is the better defender/athlete. He's also younger.

Ray is just like having another Miller, Jones or Battier spotting up and at his age and coming off injuries to his ankles once again there's no guarantee he'll even be better than Battier/Miller were this season.


Really? So why spend so much time bashing him I wonder? Reading through your last post one would think you would be happy to get rid of the old geezer .. instead you are going on and on like a jilted lover :lol:
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1259 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:22 pm

Wow, Nick, you got that one joke down! Congrats pal. Really... proud of ya! Way to go little guy!

I'm sure it probably took you years to build up the confidence to steal someone else's joke and use it repeatedly [on the internet]... It's just so charming!

He's growing up gif folks...look at him go!
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Re: Ray Allen To Sign With Miami 

Post#1260 » by humblebum » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:24 pm

insfo wrote:
humblebum wrote:Most overrated signing of the offseason both from the standpoint of Boston/Miami. Losing him in Boston is NO BIG DEAL and they were ready to replace him several times but couldn't seal the deal. Bradley replaced him in the starting line and Terry is a better fit for the Celtics roster because he can put the ball on the floor and CREATE a shot, unlike Ray (I understand he's not going to have to CREATE in Miami...) Both of these guys are uber clutch and deadly shooting the ball and Terry is the better defender/athlete. He's also younger.

Ray is just like having another Miller, Jones or Battier spotting up and at his age and coming off injuries to his ankles once again there's no guarantee he'll even be better than Battier/Miller were this season.


Really? So why spend so much time bashing him I wonder? Reading through your last post one would think you would be happy to get rid of the old geezer .. instead you are going on and on like a jilted lover :lol:


Because the record needs to be set straight AND it's hilarious to see all these Heat fans flock here!

:lol:

The collective circle jerk of Heat fans in this thread bragging about signing a nearly washed up front runner is just awe inspiring!

I had to add my two cents!

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