Wiggins "average" in practices - How good will Wiggins be?

[Diggr14]

Parker is definitely a big boy. I don't think he is the type of athlete ie: Lebron to really impose his will getting to the basket with his frame. The comp I see all the time is Melo.. that's probably about right. I don't think Melo was 240+ at 19 either.

The weight scares me if I was picking #1, honestly. I'd be more inclined to trade from 1 back to 3 or 4.. let someone else make the decisions at top while maybe adding a 2015 lotto pick in the process (and still ending up with Marcus Smart, Randle, Exum, or Embiid).

[SpursNBucks]

Parker is definitely a big boy. I don't think he is the type of athlete ie: Lebron to really impose his will getting to the basket with his frame. The comp I see all the time is Melo.. that's probably about right. I don't think Melo was 240+ at 19 either.

The weight scares me if I was picking #1, honestly. I'd be more inclined to trade from 1 back to 3 or 4.. let someone else make the decisions at top while maybe adding a 2015 lotto pick in the process (and still ending up with Marcus Smart, Randle, Exum, or Embiid).

They are making the Melo comparison for both Parker and Wiggins - Melo had an outstanding Freshmen year- stats very similar to Parker's - only right now Parker has better percentages. Athletically Melo had a 41" vert- both Parker and Wiggins have reported 44". I think Melo is clearly below Wiggins athletically, and a little in back of Parker.

I don't think the weight should scare you - he doesn't look pudgy or fat at all. Wiggins somewhat weak frame should bother you as much or more, although I think he will be fine.

I think if you have one of the top two picks you probably have to take either Wiggins or Parker (I lean toward Parker right now). You have to keep an open mind if a team picking in the top 5 or 6 offers you something out of this world then sure you have to listen.

The one thing the Bucks have been pretty good at is Drafting.

[4xBuck]

It's funny, while most are worried about Wiggins' supposed lack of killer instinct, to me, it is actually intriguing. The type of player that bothers me the most are hero-ball types who deep in their heart believe they should be taking every shot. If we can get a guy who has the talent to be an elite scorer, but does not feel that he needs to be taking every shot, that can be ideal IMO.

Now if he's actually *scared* to shoot, or withers when the going gets tough, that is a different issue. To me, those two things are not the same.

This kids is excellent! The people complaining about him need to give him some time to adapt to college, which he looks to be doing.

Albeit, I'm going off of the 2nd half of the UF-KU game, which has been Wiggins best half of his college career... He took charge and lead a big comeback for KU, he was outstanding... A combo of Giannis & Wiggins would literally give the Bucks an athletic freak show on the wing.

Another positive for Wiggins is he's a low key guy, he's not looking for the show. He could actually like Milwaukee.

[msiris]

I do not like the Melo comparison for Parker. Parker plays both ends of the floor. He does more than just scoring.I think he fits better with the greek freak.

[craig]

It's funny, while most are worried about Wiggins' supposed lack of killer instinct, to me, it is actually intriguing. The type of player that bothers me the most are hero-ball types who deep in their heart believe they should be taking every shot. ,...

Nice point.

Unfair to compare anybody to Jordan and Kobe, of course. But one thing about their intensity/competitiveness was that they weren't just hero-ball type on offense; they were totally hero-ball defenders. And often so not just in big minutes/bit games. In ordinary mid-season games and in 2nd and 3rd quarters as well as crunch time. They could often sustain defensive intensity for all 24 seconds.

I always wonder about that ability to just sustain intensity and focus throughout long games and long possessions.

[rockmanslim]

It's funny, while most are worried about Wiggins' supposed lack of killer instinct, to me, it is actually intriguing. The type of player that bothers me the most are hero-ball types who deep in their heart believe they should be taking every shot. If we can get a guy who has the talent to be an elite scorer, but does not feel that he needs to be taking every shot, that can be ideal IMO.

Now if he's actually *scared* to shoot, or withers when the going gets tough, that is a different issue. To me, those two things are not the same.

This kids is excellent! The people complaining about him need to give him some time to adapt to college, which he looks to be doing.

Albeit, I'm going off of the 2nd half of the UF-KU game, which has been Wiggins best half of his college career... He took charge and lead a big comeback for KU, he was outstanding... A combo of Giannis & Wiggins would literally give the Bucks an athletic freak show on the wing.

Another positive for Wiggins is he's a low key guy, he's not looking for the show. He could actually like Milwaukee.

He took charge? Meh. Hitting spot up jumpshots that he didn't create isn't all that impressive to me. Lots of non-superstars can do that.

Maybe in a vacuum, for a college player, I guess it was impressive. But for a guy who's supposed to be the savior of an NBA franchise, I want to see him create shots, show some moves, some skill, which he hasn't done much of this season, yet.

For anyone that missed the game:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7er4NVe5_oc[/youtube]

[sidney lanier]

It's funny, while most are worried about Wiggins' supposed lack of killer instinct, to me, it is actually intriguing. The type of player that bothers me the most are hero-ball types who deep in their heart believe they should be taking every shot. ,...

Nice point.

Unfair to compare anybody to Jordan and Kobe, of course. But one thing about their intensity/competitiveness was that they weren't just hero-ball type on offense; they were totally hero-ball defenders. And often so not just in big minutes/bit games. In ordinary mid-season games and in 2nd and 3rd quarters as well as crunch time. They could often sustain defensive intensity for all 24 seconds.

I always wonder about that ability to just sustain intensity and focus throughout long games and long possessions.

So do I. I also wonder how intense you can be during a one-year college career when you're already presumed to be going 1-2-3 in the draft.

Parker and Wiggins are good players, but all the once-in-a-decade, best-draft-ever talk can't be doing much for their development. I also get the feeling that the AAU, high school all-star, next great thing self-reinforcing media coverage that surrounds them is something we'll be seeing every year regardless of the inherent talent of any given year's crop.

We live in a world with games of the century every few years, storms of the century more often than that, and now all-time prospects almost all the time. It's kind of unfair to these kids, and the weight of expectations is something they'll have to learn to deal with while concurrently dealing with the problem of how to go from schoolboy hero to transcendent star in a league filled with players stronger and faster than they are.