The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

[Sunsdeuce]

I'd argue most players would love to play with Lebron. Most also wouldn't give up money to play with him though.

Cleveland can give him around 44-48m$ for 4 years if you agree in a S&T, with Waiters, non guaranteed contracts and a pick.
That's about what he's worth,probably wont accept that in Phoenix, but playing with LeBron and in the East? he will go all in for that opp.
I would consider it if I'm Phoenix, that's not a bad deal at all.

Really, that's a good deal?! I would say that too if I'm a Cleveland fan. Realistically, it's only a good trade for Cleveland.

I wish fans of teams would stop trying to get something for nothing. I mean you have lakers fan continuously saying Bledsoe for hill is a fair deal and than Cleveland fans saying Bledsoe for waiters is a fair deal. What GM in their right mind would do these trades?

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[dgwdum]

Really tired of this culture of forcing your way to a team in order to have an easier path to wins. It's **** boring.

I agree. Really though, it's only LeBron. When players tried to do this in the past it failed miserably (Gary Payton, KarlMalone Lakers).

LeBron's plan didn't work like he planned either. They got two championships but not the dynasty he expected.

The Cleveland plan right now has some question marks too.

I'd have to disagree, kobe, shaq,Malone and payton made it to the finals in their 1st year and while battling injuries. That's not a disaster by any means.

And LeBron, wade and bosh went to the finals every year lebron was there. Going to the finals 4 years in a row is amazing in itself. Even if they only won 2.

I don't see how anyone can consider any of that a failure.

[Calvin Klein]

Difference is that Bledsoe hasn't done **** in this league. He started 40 games and was injured the other half of the season. He is pretending to be paid max money and playing for a contender.

[drewsprocket]

If Bledsoe doesn't take a long term offer, I say extend Goran and buyout Zoran Dragic for a multiyear deal. Let Zoran and Bledsoe compete for minutes -- it might make the locker room weird but also put pressure on Bledsoe to WANT to be traded mid-season to another team where we can at least get SOMETHING before he jets off. He'll be worried that if he doesn't get the minutes with the Suns, then he'll need at least a team where he'll have main role to demonstrate he's worth max money. If he takes a QO, then I'd be hesitant on going all in with him simply because he's not going to stay on.

[AtheJ415]

If Bledsoe doesn't take a long term offer, I say extend Goran and buyout Zoran Dragic for a multiyear deal. Let Zoran and Bledsoe compete for minutes -- it might make the locker room weird but also put pressure on Bledsoe to WANT to be traded mid-season to another team where we can at least get SOMETHING before he jets off. He'll be worried that if he doesn't get the minutes with the Suns, then he'll need at least a team where he'll have main role to demonstrate he's worth max money. If he takes a QO, then I'd be hesitant on going all in with him simply because he's not going to stay on.

I'm fine with adding Zoran if he's a good player, but let's not act like we need Zoran in order for Bledsoe to have competition. We have the best and deepest back court in the league right now. Dragic, Thomas, Green, Ennis, Goodwin is plenty of competition. Even without Bledsoe we have enough ammo to be comfortable with that back court.

[oeskaer]

Quick question guys: is markieff morris going to start this season? What do you think? And how many minutes will he get?

[Calvin Klein]

With Frye out, there's pretty much nobody else to start at PF

[Sunsdeuce]

So what is the title of the next off-season thread?


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[Sunsdeuce]

With Frye out, there's pretty much nobody else to start at PF

That's a hard fact that is going to ultimately hurt the suns this year.


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[kanetrain33]

With Frye out, there's pretty much nobody else to start at PF

That's a hard fact that is going to ultimately hurt the suns this year.


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Kieff was a better player by the end of last year. He was shooting better, more active and played better D than Frye.

He also had a few stretches last year where he looked like a bonafide star and put up ridiculous numbers. He was NBA player of the week during one of those stretches. Markieff can score out of the post on his own, which is something Frye never could do and never will be able to do. And it's something PHX needs if they want to push for a playoff spot.

I think they are better at the PF spot with Kieff in the short and long-run.

[LukasBMW]

So what is the title of the next off-season thread?


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The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: The Standoff!

[SunsFanSSOL]

First of all, no one should take anything that Sam Amico says seriously. He's never right about anything and even botched his whole Decision 2.0 reporting.

Secondly, what he "reported" about Bledsoe wanting to play in Cleveland wasn't a report at all. He responded to a question during his chat which asked where Bledsoe would be playing next season by saying: "Phoenix. One a one-year deal. Just my prediction. I can tell you he, like many others, wants to play with LeBron. Not sure I ever see that happening, though. At least not for Bledsoe." It doesn't take a genius to figure out Bledsoe wants to play with LeBron.

[kingstyyyle]

Quick question guys: is markieff morris going to start this season? What do you think? And how many minutes will he get?

Im curious why you're curious

[BurningHeart]

Quick question guys: is markieff morris going to start this season? What do you think? And how many minutes will he get?

Im curious why you're curious

My guess is fantasy basketball.

[King4Day]

Quick question guys: is markieff morris going to start this season? What do you think? And how many minutes will he get?

Im curious why you're curious

We'll probably see these types of questions as fantasy drafts start coming.
That or he's interested in the Thunder getting him.

[kingstyyyle]

Quick question guys: is markieff morris going to start this season? What do you think? And how many minutes will he get?

Im curious why you're curious

My guess is fantasy basketball.

I see. I should've known

[batsmasher]

Ryan, thank you for just making this off season awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfI9512ovgo

[lilfishi22]

I'd argue most players would love to play with Lebron. Most also wouldn't give up money to play with him though.

Cleveland can give him around 44-48m$ for 4 years if you agree in a S&T, with Waiters, non guaranteed contracts and a pick.
That's about what he's worth,probably wont accept that in Phoenix, but playing with LeBron and in the East? he will go all in for that opp.
I would consider it if I'm Phoenix, that's not a bad deal at all.

Well Suns don't need non-guaranteed contracts nor do we need crap picks either. We're not helping Bledsoe get to where he wants for Waiters (who I'm not excited about), some non-guaranteed contracts (we have plenty of cap space) and picks (Memphis 1st? You kidding?)

Also, I don't understand why you listed the Cavs' lineup post trade but not the Suns.