Poll: would Lebron had won a Championship by now had he stay

Knighthonor · Post #1 » by **Knighthonor** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:44 am

Would Lebron James had won a championship by now had he stayed on the Cavs, and the other two from the big three in the Heat, didn't come to the Cavs?

Dr Aki · Post #2 » by **Dr Aki** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:46 am

i think it was consensus at the time, that if he had won a ring in cleveland, he would've definitely left as opposed to being ambivalent about it

probably mightn't have come back either

hands11 · Post #3 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:50 am

Two many moving parts to tell but...

Seeing as it took that big 3 to win two of four, I would have to guess the chances of him winning more would be lower so the chance of him not even winning one would be there.

SAS would still be the team they were and so would DAL.

He still would have been coming out of the East.

So the question is, who would have stopped him from coming out of the East.

And if he made it who would he have faced.

I would have to guess there would be a decent chance he would have no rings if he stayed.

JellosJigglin · Post #4 » by **JellosJigglin** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:54 am

Of course not. He had opportunities and he failed. The pressure of being the top dog was too much. Remember the phantom elbow injury that he claimed required surgery which he never got. He checked out mentally long before he did physically. Greatest front runner of all time.

OffTheWall2 · Post #5 » by **OffTheWall2** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:59 am

Good chance Miami actually wins in 2010 without LeBron. Wade was pretty damn good that year, and LeBron is the one who wet the bed that year vs. the Mavs. D-Wade has always had their number.

However, not too sure Miami gets passed Chicago without LeBron so it's moot.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #6 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:12 am

Not a chance. Cavaliers weren't getting a lot better back then. Never would have Kyrie or TT had LBJ stayed, who knows who else CLE may have got, but there isn't any reason to believe they'd have won it.

RaptorNews · Post #7 » by **RaptorNews** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:15 am

JellosJigglin wrote:Of course not. He had opportunities and he failed. The pressure of being the top dog was too much. Remember the phantom elbow injury that he claimed required surgery which he never got. He checked out mentally long before he did physically. Greatest front runner of all time.

Post #8 » by **LLcoleJ** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:18 am

Heat3Peat wrote:Not a chance. Cavaliers weren't getting a lot better back then. Never would have Kyrie or TT had LBJ stayed, who knows who else CLE may have got, but there isn't any reason to believe they'd have won it.

So your name and sig are to mock the fact that the Heat didn't get a 3peat?

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #9 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:29 am

John Black wrote:
Heat3Peat wrote:Not a chance. Cavaliers weren't getting a lot better back then. Never would have Kyrie or TT had LBJ stayed, who knows who else CLE may have got, but there isn't any reason to believe they'd have won it.

So your name and sig are to mock the fact that the Heat didn't get a 3peat?

Sigh, yes I. I joined July 6th simply to pretend I was a Heat fan and mess with Heat fans bc of the whole LeBron may or may not leave thing. I admittedly trolled a bit and got banned a few times as a result.

After spending a few days on this site, I grew to really like it so I stuck with it, but unfortunately I cannot change my name yet and I don't want to start over bc then I cant post here for 100 days....

Makaveli DaDon · Post #10 » by **Makaveli DaDon** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:45 am

They win zero. Lebron new Miami was going to build a big three, with or without him. Who the third star would be would have been interesting.

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JellosJigglin · Post #11 » by **JellosJigglin** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:46 am

RaptorNews wrote:
JellosJigglin wrote:Of course not. He had opportunities and he failed. The pressure of being the top dog was too much. Remember the phantom elbow injury that he claimed required surgery which he never got. He checked out mentally long before he did physically. Greatest front runner of all time.

Post #12 » by **LLcoleJ** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:50 am

Heat3Peat wrote:
John Black wrote:
Heat3Peat wrote:Not a chance. Cavaliers weren't getting a lot better back then. Never would have Kyrie or TT had LBJ stayed, who knows who else CLE may have got, but there isn't any reason to believe they'd have won it.

So your name and sig are to mock the fact that the Heat didn't get a 3peat?

Sigh, yes I. I joined July 6th simply to pretend I was a Heat fan and mess with Heat fans bc of the whole LeBron may or may not leave thing. I admittedly trolled a bit and got banned a few times as a result.

After spending a few days on this site, I grew to really like it so I stuck with it, but unfortunately I cannot change my name yet and I don't want to start over bc then I cant post here for 100 days....

Sigh. Well you can(at least) remove your sig that pretty much validates your intentions.

YogurtProducer · Post #13 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:56 am

OffTheWall2 wrote:Good chance Miami actually wins in 2010 without LeBron. Wade was pretty damn good that year, and LeBron is the one who wet the bed that year vs. the Mavs. D-Wade has always had their number.

However, not too sure Miami gets passed Chicago without LeBron so it's moot.

Cmon man

OffTheWall2 · Post #14 » by **OffTheWall2** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:57 am

I mean. They had the money to sign a third star, that team was not all LeBron anyway. It's not too far fetched to believe Miami had a small championship window with or without LeBron in 2010.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #15 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:38 am

OffTheWall2 wrote:I mean. They had the money to sign a third star, that team was not all LeBron anyway. It's not too far fetched to believe Miami had a small championship window with or without LeBron in 2010.

Yeah it is. LeBron came in and that team and franchise was immediately his. He was the #1 focus and Dwayne Wade for arguably the first time... at the least first time since the Shaq days, was not the main focus of teams.

OffTheWall2 · Post #16 » by **OffTheWall2** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:39 am

I seem to remember their Finals performance a bit differently than you do.

Dr Aki · Post #17 » by **Dr Aki** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:53 am

OffTheWall2 wrote:Good chance Miami actually wins in 2010 without LeBron. Wade was pretty damn good that year, and LeBron is the one who wet the bed that year vs. the Mavs. D-Wade has always had their number.

However, not too sure Miami gets passed Chicago without LeBron so it's moot.

you mean 2011?

2010 went to the LA over boston and precipitated this whole decision affair

OffTheWall2 · Post #18 » by **OffTheWall2** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:53 am

Yes. I mean the 2010-2011 season.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #19 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:56 am

OffTheWall2 wrote:I seem to remember their Finals performance a bit differently than you do.

I seem to remember the whole 10-11 season differently than you do then. LeBron really only had one real bad game that series vs Dallas, and Wade had one as well, the last game, game 6 to be exact....

OffTheWall2 · Post #20 » by **OffTheWall2** » Sun Oct 5, 2014 3:59 am

Heat3Peat wrote:
OffTheWall2 wrote:I seem to remember their Finals performance a bit differently than you do.

I seem to remember the whole 10-11 season differently than you do then. LeBron really only had one real bad game that series vs Dallas, and Wade had one as well, the last game, game 6 to be exact....

LeBron had worse #'s than Bosh in that series.

Would Lebron had won a championship if he stayed on the Cavs and without bosh/Wade?