Jollay wrote:I wouldn't can McCarthy by any close to small stretch of the imagination, but does anyone here think our chances next year would be negligibly less if we had any of about a dozen other guys currently in the NFL? (Belichick? Philbin? Carroll? Harbaugh? Fisher? Pagano? Arians? Fox? Reid? Payton? Kelly? McCoy? Tomlin? Even Tom Coughlin (that may be stretching it). If most of any of these guys took the reins next year I would feel almost the same about our odds to reach the SB as I would with McCarthy.
That's why I said he somewhere in the top half. He is. You can rationally make a case he's one of the best few, or I think it's personally reasonable to think he's in the 8 to 14 range somewhere as well.
Of course if you watch one guy every week you see all his mistakes. Just be glad you're not watching Mike Smith this year...it would take you back to Ray Rhodes.
This is a real good post and I agree pretty much 100%.
Like I've said before,I don't think MM is a bad coach and I wouldn't fire him just to fire him.The players like him and he does know how to develop talent,Martyconlon put it pretty well saying he's a really good Monday through Saturday head coach and he's a decent gameday coach as long as it's not a meaningful game or playoff game.
My thing with MM and what makes him an average head coach at the end of the day is the big games and playoff games,it's like MM goes brain-dead and the team always comes out flat and or falls apart in the big games like we seen last week vs the Bills and we've seen multiple times in the playoffs.
Not saying we have to win the Super Bowl every season obviously,but damn at least show up in the playoffs and be competitive and maybe even win a game once in awhile.
Say what you want about the ''take out 2010" argument but the fact of the matter is 2 playoff wins over a 7 season span with Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers is pretty damn bad,especially if you think MM is an elite or top 5 head coach in the league.
Maybe winning the Super Bowl in 2010 gives him a pass for the other 7 seasons with some Packer fans but not me.Like I said on here the other day,MM could win 2 playoff games over the next 10 seasons and you're still going to have some Packer fans giving him a pass because of that 1 Super Bowl,that's just how some Packer fans are.
But if someone like Belichick only won 2 playoff games over a 7 year span with Tom Brady those same people would be burning him at the stake despite winning 3 Super Bowls and playing in 5.
No elite coach with a first ballot HOF QB would only win 2 playoff games over a 7 season span,it just wouldn't happen.