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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#101 » by guest81 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:51 am

GopherIt! wrote:Our pt diff is worse because we play more games against the west.


Wolves have losses to the Celtics,76ers, and now Pacers, 3 of the bottom feeders in the east
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#102 » by Narf » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:51 am

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Narf wrote:We probably won't make the playoffs next year, but 40 wins and another year of player development and we should be in the mix.
Wolves 5-21 -10.2 point differential 98.2ppg 108.4pa

Sixers 3-23 -11.9 point differential 91.3ppg 103.3pa

Wolves are about as close to 40 wins as the worst team ever assembled is. Plus the 76ers aren't in the West.

I told you. If you troll every post no one will believe you anymore. You have to spread the stupid out to make it less obvious you're trolling. I happen to think the Wolves look like a 40 win team next year as our youth develops this year and Pek/Rubio/Martin get healthy. And your response is to post this year's team's stats with 1/2 a PG. It's just not a feasible answer, you gotta do better.

But what do I know. I figured we'd hit 35 wins this year.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#103 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:54 am

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GopherIt! wrote:Our pt diff is worse because we play more games against the west.


Wolves have losses to the Celtics,76ers, and now Pacers, 3 of the bottom feeders in the east

He never said we're winning all our games against the East. He said the point differential is skewed because of the games against the West.

Boston is the only one of those three games which the margin of defeat was greater than our average point differential.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#104 » by guest81 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:55 am

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guest81 wrote:
Narf wrote:We probably won't make the playoffs next year, but 40 wins and another year of player development and we should be in the mix.
Wolves 5-21 -10.2 point differential 98.2ppg 108.4pa

Sixers 3-23 -11.9 point differential 91.3ppg 103.3pa

Wolves are about as close to 40 wins as the worst team ever assembled is. Plus the 76ers aren't in the West.

I told you. If you troll every post no one will believe you anymore. You have to spread the stupid out to make it less obvious you're trolling. I happen to think the Wolves look like a 40 win team next year as our youth develops thus year and Pek/Rubio/Martin get healthy. And your response is to post this year's team's stats with 1/2 a PG. It's just not a feasible answer, you gotta do better.

But what do I know. I figured we'd hit 35 wins this year.


Rubio is not the difference between what they are now and 40 wins.. Saying when Pek and Martin get healthy also is fools gold because they have shown that they can't stay healthy
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#106 » by guest81 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:58 am

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GopherIt! wrote:Our pt diff is worse because we play more games against the west.


Wolves have losses to the Celtics,76ers, and now Pacers, 3 of the bottom feeders in the east

He never said we're winning all our games against the East. He said the point differential is skewed because of the games against the West.

Boston is the only one of those three games which the margin of defeat was greater than our average point differential.


the 76ers have played one less game against teams over 500 then the Wolves have
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#107 » by Calinks » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:59 am

Flip firing shots at Wiggins again. It seems like he may have a motor issue. I'm starting to lean towards the Wesley Johnson comparison again. Dude disappears too much. Especially for someone who many of you were toting as a great NBA level defender before he even stepped foot on an NBA court.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#108 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:04 am

Calinks wrote:Flip firing shots at Wiggins again. It seems like he may have a motor issue. I'm starting to lean towards the Wesley Johnson comparison again. Dude disappears too much. Especially for someone who many of you were toting as a great NBA level defender before he even stepped foot on an NBA court.


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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#109 » by Calinks » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:07 am

It's something. Still not the effort I want to see. At the very least I'd expect him to play some outstanding defense in a close game like this. Flip talks about him not having the energy or focus. That was one of the biggest reasons he was taken so high. He needs to bring effort every night.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#110 » by Worm Guts » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:14 am

guest81 wrote:
Narf wrote:
guest81 wrote:Wolves 5-21 -10.2 point differential 98.2ppg 108.4pa

Sixers 3-23 -11.9 point differential 91.3ppg 103.3pa

Wolves are about as close to 40 wins as the worst team ever assembled is. Plus the 76ers aren't in the West.

I told you. If you troll every post no one will believe you anymore. You have to spread the stupid out to make it less obvious you're trolling. I happen to think the Wolves look like a 40 win team next year as our youth develops thus year and Pek/Rubio/Martin get healthy. And your response is to post this year's team's stats with 1/2 a PG. It's just not a feasible answer, you gotta do better.

But what do I know. I figured we'd hit 35 wins this year.


Rubio is not the difference between what they are now and 40 wins.. Saying when Pek and Martin get healthy also is fools gold because they have shown that they can't stay healthy

Rubio's minutes are going to the player that RPM says is the worst player in the league. We might not be winning 40 games with a healthy Rubio, but the difference might be more than you think.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#111 » by Mattya » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:55 am

The Wes comparison is so lazy. Wiggins showed more hustle tonight than Wes ever did. This happens every year with every rookie. A rough stretch and people go overboard. Reminds me of when people wanted to trade Shabazz for a back up point guard.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#112 » by Merc_Porto » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:05 am

Mattya wrote:The Wes comparison is so lazy. Wiggins showed more hustle tonight than Wes ever did. This happens every year with every rookie. A rough stretch and people go overboard. Reminds me of when people wanted to trade Shabazz for a back up point guard.


Also, reminds me of when people tought that D.Williams was going to be a star.

To be fair on D.Williams, i was more excited after the first 25 games of him, than i am with the first 25 games of Wiggins.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#113 » by Calinks » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:25 am

I'm not saying Wiggins is exactly Wesley Johnson. They have different games. I am saying Wiggins is reminding me of Johnson in the fact that he is a player who disappears too frequently and doesn't play at the same level. The fact that Flip is calling the kid out on his motor is a red flag to me. As I said before, players that need a lot of outside influences to get them going scare the hell out of me because more times than not, those guys can't be relied upon. Wiggins obviously still has a game that isnt set in stone and at 19 there will be issues but I'm nervous. I just don't see and haven't seen the player so many said he is going to be.

I feel like with most of the star players I have seen as rooks, there were much more noticeable signs that they were going to be great players than I am getting with Wiggins. I was more intrigued by spurts of Shabazz than I have been by Wiggins so far as a whole. I see the flashes but I'd like to see more before I feel comfortable thinking this kid is the real deal. Yes I'm skeptical, and I'm hoping that I wont be a year from now.

I really don't know if he has the mentality to be one of the great in the league. It's one thing to have all the tools but if you don't have the desire to use them, they wont matter. It's why Wade asks if you want to be great. Wiggins has a chance to be but he has to want to be, not just like to be, he has to want it and work for it. Maybe he does and maybe he will but Flip's words and his play makes me wonder.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#114 » by Feilong » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:00 am

Jan 21st, MIN vs DAL Rubio returns. Deja vu. One more month and i will finally watch a MIN game.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#115 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:25 am

Feilong wrote:Jan 21st, MIN vs DAL Rubio returns. Deja vu. One more month and i will finally watch a MIN game.

He'll be back before that.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#116 » by theGreatRC » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:28 am

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Feilong wrote:Jan 21st, MIN vs DAL Rubio returns. Deja vu. One more month and i will finally watch a MIN game.

He'll be back before that.


Yeah..they said in today's game that he was doing 5 on 0 work..next is full contact and he's back.

I'll give it 3-4 more games.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#117 » by Feilong » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:32 am

theGreatRC wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Feilong wrote:Jan 21st, MIN vs DAL Rubio returns. Deja vu. One more month and i will finally watch a MIN game.

He'll be back before that.


Yeah..they said in today's game that he was doing 5 on 0 work..next is full contact and he's back.

I'll give it 3-4 more games.


Ok even better then. Jan 7 vs PHX on ESPN or Jan 10 vs SAS. If sooner Jan 3 vs UTA looks good.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#118 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:36 am

Feilong wrote:
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Klomp wrote:He'll be back before that.


Yeah..they said in today's game that he was doing 5 on 0 work..next is full contact and he's back.

I'll give it 3-4 more games.


Ok even better then. Jan 7 vs PHX on ESPN or Jan 10 vs SAS. If sooner Jan 3 vs UTA looks good.

I think he'll be back somewhere in that four-game homestand (Jan 1, 3, 5, 7) at the latest. So that's 4-8 more games without him.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#119 » by C.lupus » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:46 pm

Jan. 2 would be exactly 8 weeks so I'm gonna go with the Jan. 3 return date.
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Re: Pacers @ Timberwolves GT :: 6PM 

Post#120 » by Krapinsky » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:48 pm

I think some of you guys are overreacting on Wiggins. We knew in drafting him that we were going to have to be patient. He's more than 2 years younger than Bazzy.
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