Official Jeremy Lin Thread

[ChokeFasncists]

18/8 seems about right

35% too, but I'd say over.

Man, some of you are overly optimistic when it comes to Lin' stats expectation...No way Lin averages 8 assist with basically no shooters around him and a team with no floor-spacers...Let's wait and see whether Marks can bring in some shooters and another guy that could potentially score 15ppg just to support Lopez and Lin scoring.

My expectation for Lin, under the current roster which is pretty bad..is 16ppg and 6 assist...with shooters, Lin could probably get close to 8..maybe 7.5 assist per game.

I guess it depends on what the offense is gonna be. If it's Lin PnR every possession, he's gonna get a lot of assists.

I wouldn't say no shooters. Bogs, CMC, Skil, LeVert, Vasquez.

To a lesser degree Booker, Lopez, Whitehead.

If they're gonna run n' gun that's gonna be a lot of assists.

It also depends on how Atkinson view Lin's TOs. If he doesn't care, the assists are gonna go up.

They're still gonna sign more players. 7.5 and 8 are basically the same when one rounds it up.

Ain't nobody in the world except Chris Paul would average 8 assists with this Nets roster.

but hey he is Jeremy "Steve Nash" Lin

Na, he is Jeremy "Stocks" Lin.

[ChokeFasncists]

No way Lin averages 8 assist with basically no shooters around him and a team with no floor-spacers...

Sign this guy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbW3aAeUFiA[/youtube]



(Lin at 0:17)

He frigging just recovered from that foot injury he suffered during that series, after 7 operations; will be playing for Argentina in the Olympics.

[shakendfries]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

[shakendfries]

No way Lin averages 8 assist with basically no shooters around him and a team with no floor-spacers...

Sign this guy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbW3aAeUFiA[/youtube]



(Lin at 0:17)

He frigging just recovered from that foot injury he suffered during that series, after 7 operations; will be playing for Argentina in the Olympics.

Didn't this guy average a career 8ppg? I'd rather give minutes to Bojan tbh.

[ChokeFasncists]

No way Lin averages 8 assist with basically no shooters around him and a team with no floor-spacers...

Sign this guy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbW3aAeUFiA[/youtube]



(Lin at 0:17)

He frigging just recovered from that foot injury he suffered during that series, after 7 operations; will be playing for Argentina in the Olympics.

Didn't this guy average a career 8ppg? I'd rather give minutes to Bojan tbh.

Far better defender. He provided veteran leadership, toughness and passing besides shooting. He has experience playing with a NBA championship team (even tho he didn't get one) and an international championship team.

[Travers]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

It's just like a fan idolizing their idol, no big deal. After all, it's Lin's thread, already the best place for them to share their views.

[Travers]

18/8, I say under. Lin doesn't have enough reliable teammates to score from his passes to get that high in assists. He is also not a consistent offensive player. Some nights just way off and lack of confidence and aggressiveness, but other nights he played like an all-star pg. So may be 18 is a bit high unless he has instruction from the coach to shoot and attack at random because others just can't finish his passes. But if that happens, Lin won't be able to last the season w/o gassing or injuiry. I say 16/7 is more realistic, but after Linsanity, can't really count Lin out from doing the unthinkable. LOL.

When a player is not getting trust from the coach, they always under-performed, and worse when playing out of position. Sadly, Lin has been dealing with that since leaving Knicks. Harden the PG in Houston, tanking year in Lakers and mostly a SG in Hornets.

[Lorenzomax7]

Delfino is done ...

[Roy Tarpley]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

Great post. In defense of the "Lin fan," however, I would add that there were at least one or two prominent long-time Nets fans that criticized the Lin signing, saying that he was nothing more than a journeyman bench player. So as in most things, you have a few extreme Lin fans arguing that he is going to lead the team to 40 wins, and you have a few extreme Nets fans who are arguing that Lin is a scrub.

The large majority, however, recognizes that Lin is a solid starting PG who will probably get you (on this depleted Nets team) around 17pts, 3reb, 7asts, 44/35/80, barring injury.

Also, a lot of it is just sports fans jibber jabbering to kill the 3+ months before the NBA season begins.

[KM6]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

Great post. In defense of the "Lin fan," however, I would add that there were at least one or two prominent long-time Nets fans that criticized the Lin signing, saying that he was nothing more than a journeyman bench player. So as in most things, you have a few extreme Lin fans arguing that he is going to lead the team to 40 wins, and you have a few extreme Nets fans who are arguing that Lin is a scrub.

The large majority, however, recognizes that Lin is a solid starting PG who will probably get you (on this depleted Nets team) around 17pts, 3reb, 7asts, 44/35/80, barring injury.

Also, a lot of it is just sports fans jibber jabbering to kill the 3+ months before the NBA season begins.

Exactly. What else do you expect us to do during this 3+ months without games to watch and can't make arguments? Hold hands and sing kumbaya?

Lin is no god, we wish him to do well, and are just over excited that he will finally get a chance to play PG under a coach that trusts him. The team's roster can use a lot of improvements as we speak, but I think we don't have to be this pessimistic. Mark is not done, I hope he can add some outside shooting, and some depth at the front court positions.

Could this team be even worse than the 76ers this season? It's a possibility. But it's also possible the team can exceed everyone's expectations and win more than 17 games right? I would rather be the team that was expected to win 17 games to beat expectations and win 30-40 games, than being a team that was expected to be a top 4 seed but barely gets a .500 record like the rockets last year.

We all wish the team to be successful, it's just we all have different expectations. After all, we are all nets fans now, otherwise we wouldn't even be here arguing, would we?

[hood30]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

It's just like a fan idolizing their idol, no big deal. After all, it's Lin's thread, already the best place for them to share their views.

I somewhat agree with that..I don't agree with the "Lin is a star" who can carry a team full of scrubs to the playoff, but this thread is a Lin thread for people to share their views about him and the season he's having...As long as these talks and rhetoric stays here in this thread..

I'm hoping for the best for Lin and the Nets, but taking a look at the Nets roster is very demoralizing. You basically have one 3point shooter on the roster that could start in Bogs..but even him is seen as a 6th-man type because he can't play good defense.

Who will be knocking down them 3points on the Nets at a consistent NBA level? RHJ? Booker? Lopez? Kilpatrick? Vasquez? McCollough?...None of these guys will scare teams from the 3point arc...and even Lin is average there for his career.

This team look so horrible on paper that I truly believe Marks will have to take the risk of offering DMO a contract that can't be matched, eventhough DMO has health issue....I just don't believe you can go into the season with the current botch of players and no shooters.

[Roy Tarpley]

Levert was a 40% 3PT in college. Skil shot 36% last year. Vasquez is a career 35% 3PT shooter. And my favorite, Justin Hamilton shot 40% from the European 3pt line.

[hood30]

Levert was a 40% 3PT in college. Skil shot 36% last year. Vasquez is a career 35% 3PT shooter. And my favorite, Justin Hamilton shot 40% from the European 3pt line.

I don't think it is fair to compare college 3point to the NBA 3point line...and Levert is currently injured..once he's back, he will have to adjust to the speed of the NBA, so I wouldn't expect fire-works from him..probably not this year..

Skil shot 34% from beyond the arc...That's a respectable %, but nothing to scare teams off.,,Skil is more of a 6th-man type..I don't think you can pencil him in to play 30mpg yet....His defense is very suspect, like Bogsdanovic.

Vasquez is coming off a major injury season..He shot 30% from 3PT arc last year..I don't think you can count on him to knock off 3pointers since he's not going to get enough minutes...He's not going to start.

As for Hamilton knocking down 3's in European league..the NBA is on a different level..Let's see how he shoots it at the NBA level when you have faster player closing down on you...At the very least, I like the fact that he may take some 3's...but than again, Hamilton will be coming off the bench, so won't see enough NBA minutes to be a genuwine threat for this Nets team from the 3point line.

So basically, the Nets 3point shooters are guys that will be coming off the bench.

The starters are : Lin/RHJ/Bogs/Booker/Lopez......Only bogs is a legit 3point shooter that team would at least be worried about leaving open.

Even the guys on the bench that are decent at the long ball, will not get much respect.

[Roy Tarpley]

Right, there's a lot of hoping and praying re: 3PT. I'm just saying that it's not totally bleak.

[spaceballer]

Losing out on TJ and Crabbe was definitely a blow. This is shaping up to be a tough season. Gotta maintain a sense of humor where you can...like mothers stealing ice cream.

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[NyCeEvO]

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[bws94]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

It's just like a fan idolizing their idol, no big deal. After all, it's Lin's thread, already the best place for them to share their views.

It's a Lin thread where?

I think the purpose of this thread is Lin as a Net and how he helps a team, not comparing Lin to top players in the league or talking about his efforts of success in a vacuum. This board is a team board that discusses individual players on that team, not individual players for the sake of it.

[bws94]

Levert was a 40% 3PT in college. Skil shot 36% last year. Vasquez is a career 35% 3PT shooter. And my favorite, Justin Hamilton shot 40% from the European 3pt line.

I don't think it is fair to compare college 3point to the NBA 3point line...and Levert is currently injured..once he's back, he will have to adjust to the speed of the NBA, so I wouldn't expect fire-works from him..probably not this year..

Skil shot 34% from beyond the arc...That's a respectable %, but nothing to scare teams off.,,Skil is more of a 6th-man type..I don't think you can pencil him in to play 30mpg yet....His defense is very suspect, like Bogsdanovic.

Vasquez is coming off a major injury season..He shot 30% from 3PT arc last year..I don't think you can count on him to knock off 3pointers since he's not going to get enough minutes...He's not going to start.

As for Hamilton knocking down 3's in European league..the NBA is on a different level..Let's see how he shoots it at the NBA level when you have faster player closing down on you...At the very least, I like the fact that he may take some 3's...but than again, Hamilton will be coming off the bench, so won't see enough NBA minutes to be a genuwine threat for this Nets team from the 3point line.

So basically, the Nets 3point shooters are guys that will be coming off the bench.

The starters are : Lin/RHJ/Bogs/Booker/Lopez......Only bogs is a legit 3point shooter that team would at least be worried about leaving open.

Even the guys on the bench that are decent at the long ball, will not get much respect.

In my opinion, all rotation guys are crucial. If Hamilton is knocking them down in say 18 minutes on the court, that's a lot of minutes and minutes that can extend to the lower to mid 20s if and when he really gets it going. And some games are determined by the bench's play, sometimes starters tend score within a few points of each other. You can always grab a bench player and keep him in the game if he has it going. In fact, if one of those bench guys is a "6th man," he, by definition, will be playing major minutes and be a major contributor to the team.

So, yeah, the starters are important and mostly will close the games and be in there when the other team's strongest players are mostly in there, but having a deep team and weapons off the bench is a big part of building a team. Guys like Hamilton, McCullough, and Kilpatrick may emerge as major contributors for the team. But, we have a long want to go before we know much.

[Travers]

I like Jeremy Lin but I really wish these Lin fans were more humble. Most of the Nets fans on this board try to be realistic with the team after years of being underwhelmed and disappointed. Since the move to BKN, this team has been all about overpromising excellence and underdelivering a product that was softer than babysh*t. I remember watching our max contract NBA all-star pg getting balled up by the likes of the Nate Robinsons in the league routinely in moments of adversity. I remember all the excuses, well he just needs better teammates, justifying mortgaging our future with 2 HOF teammates, only for the same exact thing to happen again. I remember the franchise being labeled "bush league" by opposing coaches. I remember a team with 0 accountability because every mistake had an excuse when in reality it was built around some schmuck with all the talent in the world who half-assed everything, didn't give 2 sh*ts about winning as long as he put up stats, to a point where his HOF teammates called him out on only playing hard when it was convenient for him.

Lin didn't come in the interview and say he's gonna ball like an All-Star or put up HOF numbers like Kobe or Harden. He never said he's gonna carry the team into the playoff. He never said it was the FO's fault if the team didn't do good. He just seemed happy to be somewhere where he can play his best.

All a fan can ask for is for players to play hard for the teams they represent. Professional sports is where money can create the illusion of passion and dedication. All I can hope, at the very best, is for Lin to turn into a league average PG like Jeff Teague and a player who shows up in moments of adversity. And that's it. If he becomes an All-Star, awesome. If he doesn't, it'll be fine. Jeremy Lin is going to have bad games this season. There are going to be times where the team loses because of the mistakes the team makes. I understand everyone wishing well, but we saw what expectations did to Lin and Williams in NY. I know someone is gonna have to re-post a similar message this once a week on this board and its great to be optimistic, but let's try to keep perspective in mind. It's just a game. It brings joy to us (some teams more often than others). All fans really want is players who love the game as much as we do.

It's just like a fan idolizing their idol, no big deal. After all, it's Lin's thread, already the best place for them to share their views.

It's a Lin thread where?

I think the purpose of this thread is Lin as a Net and how he helps a team, not comparing Lin to top players in the league or talking about his efforts of success in a vacuum. This board is a team board that discusses individual players on that team, not individual players for the sake of it.

Different people have different views on it. I see it as a place for Lin fans to share their views freely, as long as they don't violate the rules here. If you find the posts inappropriate, you can always report it and let the MOD decide. No need to call them out.

[NyCeEvO]

Dont agree labeling people trolls just because they are probably wrong. everyone's human being can be wrong on something, ask yourself, wanna get called idiot cos u have a wrong perception. prove them wrong, and with respect as you are a fellow human being.

and people always compare players, it's perfectly normal, and if we can have honest and sincere discussion, we can get close to the truth, and prove the wrong claims are indeed, wrong. do you think rejecting the discussion and turning here a name calling ground a good start for fact finding and can prove you are more close to the truth?

to tell if one is troll, is not base on his basketball opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

one derails basketball discussion into inflammatory, what is it called? he become troll himself.

"can you do the debate part not the spitting part?"
That's a troll comment. Stunningly, there appear to be no consequences to that behavior on this board. But why are you here? Team fans will make up their minds on Lin as the season gets under way. And you can find a host of folks who will agree Lin is better than any other guard at Portal. Why join this forum just to hassle folks

We're going to start with a clean slate for all parties.

There will be no defining and labeling someone else as a troll or grouping people into "Lin worshippers" or "Lin hater" groups. This thread will be about Jeremy Lin the person, his individual play, and his play within the team. Anything else will fall into derailing discussion or personal attacks and will be subject to the penalties listed in the OP as well here.

If a poster violates these rules, do not "backseat moderate" or attack them back. Report the post and leave it to the mods to handle the situation.

Like every other player in NBA history, we should be able to recognize and evaluate the good and bad things that Lin does and do it in a civil manner.

-NyCe