Official East Conference Prediction Thread - updated 10/25/16

sarj22 · Post #181 » by **sarj22** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:13 am

Eastern Conference Prediction:

1. Cavs
2. Celtics
3. Hawks
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Magic
7. Bulls
8. Pistons

9. Wizards
10. Heat
11. Bucks
12. Knicks
13. Hornets
14. Sixers
15. Nets

xfactor99 · Post #182 » by **xfactor99** » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:47 am

1. Cleveland
2. Boston
3. Toronto
4. Charlotte
5. Detroit
6. Atlanta
7. Milwaukee
8. Indiana
9. Orlando
10. Washington
11. Miami
12. Chicago
13. New York
14. Philadelphia
15. Brooklyn

Gomagic44 · Post #183 » by **Gomagic44** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:16 am

1. Cleveland
2. Toronto
3. Atlanta
4. Charlotte
5. Detroit
6. Orlando
7. Indiana
8. Chicago

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rcfc1 · Post #184 » by **rcfc1** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:36 am

CLE
Indiana
Toronto
Boston
Charlotte
Detroit
Washington
Orlando

Milwaukee
Atlanta
Chicago
New York
Miami
Brooklyn
Philadelphia

malik959 · Post #185 » by **malik959** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:34 am

Cavs
Celtics
Knicks
Pacers
Raptors
Hawks
Pistons
Bulls

Heat
Magic
Wizards
Hornets
Bucks
Sixers
Nets

kc11 · Post #186 » by **kc11** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:03 am

TIER1 (contenders)
Cleveland

TIER2 (not bad at all)
Toronto
Boston
Atlanta
Detroit
Indiana
Charlotte

TIER3 (anything is possible, playoffs, lottery...)
New York
Washington
Orlando
Milwaukee
Chicago
Miami

TIER4 (well...)
Philadelphia
Brooklyn

Post #187 » by **ken6199** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:40 pm

Veyron wrote:
Cornbread wrote:Indy is becoming really overrated by some. I don't like the way the pieces fit together. Jefferson, Young, and Ellis on the floor together doesn't seem to be a great fit. Hill to Teague is different, but not a ton better. They may be marginally improved over last year, but I don't think they make a big leap.

Agree. In my opinion Indiana is the most overrated team in this thread.

I am half way into my analysis work, it shows Utah's overatedness is beyond Indy. We'll see.

Yallbecrazy · Post #188 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:14 am

I may be a huge homer, but I think the Raps finish with a better regular season record than the Cavs. Cavs only improvement will come from Kyrie, with everyone else getting a little older and slightly worse, plus championship hangover and Lebron sitting out a bunch of games to save himself for the playoffs. Raptors outside of Lowry are young and will improve all over the roster organically + Demarre will hopefully be healthy. I don`t know whether Sullinger is an improvement over Biyombo or not, more minutes and a great fit offensively while Bismack was a perfect defensive fit. I think that all can add up to more than the one game that separated them this year. (plus Toronto may not want to rest guys as much as last year and actually go for the #1 seed to get HCA in the ECF.

(Also, having the Nets, 6ers and Knicks in the division helps a lot)

Walmart · Post #189 » by **Walmart** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:33 am

1. Cleveland
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. Toronto
5. Atlanta
6. Chicago
7. Detroit
8. Orlando
9. Charlotte
10. Washington
11. Miami
12. Milwaukee
13. New York
14. Philadelphia
15. Brooklyn

NYKHardKnock · Post #190 » by **NYKHardKnock** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:48 am

Eastern Conference:
1. Cleveland 63-19
2. Indiana 55-27
3. Toronto 49-33
4. Boston 48-34
5. Detroit 47-35
6. New York 44-38
7. Atlanta 43-39
8. Chicago 42-40
_________________

9. Charlotte 41-41
10. Orlando 40-42
11. Washington 37-45
12. Milwaukee 36-46
13. Miami 29-53
14. Brooklyn 20-62
15. Philadelphia 17-65

Cle over Chi in 5
Indi over Atl in 6
NY over Raps in 7
Bos over Det in 7

Cle over NY in 5
Indi over Bos in 6

Indi over Cle in 7

nbafan341 · Post #191 » by **nbafan341** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:43 am

Igot the knicks as the 2nd seed, really underrated team. Dont slep on rose/melo/kristaps. oh and noah, cant forget him

PANDEMONEUM · Post #192 » by **PANDEMONEUM** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:17 pm

1. Cavs
2. Raptors
3. Celtics

4. Pacers
5. Hornets
6. Hawks
7. Pistons

8.Bulls

9. Magic
10. Bucks
11. Wizards
12. Heat
13. Knicks

14. Sixers
15. Nets

Cornbread · Post #193 » by **Cornbread** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:11 am

1. Cavs (61-21)

2. Toronto (53-29)
3. Celtics (51-31)
4. Detroit (48-34)
5. Atlanta (48-34)

6. Wizards (43-39)
7. Pacers (43-39)
8. Hornets (42-40)
9. Magic (41-41)
10. Bulls (41-41)
11. Bucks (38-44)
12. Knicks (37-45)
13. Heat (33-49)

14. Sixers (18-64)
15. Nets (12-70)

(Proportionally spaced)

BBALLER4FR · Post #194 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:44 am

I got the Knicks top 5. Bulls needed 3pt shooting (would have loved guys like Melo/KP) Knicks need penetrator and leader (Noah and Rose fit the bill). Turns out the ideal combination of players converged in NY. Add a 3 and D guy like Lee and we can certainly make noise. Knicks were on track to playoffs before Melo went down with a trainwreck of a team. Now there are concerns about injusry but even with a few injuries the Knicks have a starting 5 that can maintain (Rose/Lee/Melo/KP/Noah) much better than last years abomination (Jose/Aflalo/Melo/KP/Lopez). There's no real dropoff in bench when we were throwing guys like Amundson and Seraphin in the mix.

1. CAVS
2. CELTS
3. KNICKS (49 wins)
4. RAPS
5. PACERS
6. PISTONS
7. BUCKS
8. HORNETS

Cornbread · Post #195 » by **Cornbread** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:57 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:I got the Knicks top 5. Bulls needed 3pt shooting (would have loved guys like Melo/KP) Knicks need penetrator and leader (Noah and Rose fit the bill). Turns out the ideal combination of players converged in NY. Add a 3 and D guy like Lee and we can certainly make noise. Knicks were on track to playoffs before Melo went down with a trainwreck of a team. Now there are concerns about injusry but even with a few injuries the Knicks have a starting 5 that can maintain (Rose/Lee/Melo/KP/Noah) much better than last years abomination (Jose/Aflalo/Melo/KP/Lopez). There's no real dropoff in bench when we were throwing guys like Amundson and Seraphin in the mix.

1. CAVS
2. CELTS
3. KNICKS (49 wins)
4. RAPS
5. PACERS
6. PISTONS
7. BUCKS
8. HORNETS

The thing is - you can make an argument like this for most teams in the east. What you're describing is the Knicks upside, not their projection. They also have a downside if Rose gets hurt or continues to just not be very good. Same with Noah. I think they're with a bunch of other teams that will fight for the last spot or two.

BBALLER4FR · Post #196 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:11 am

Cornbread wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:I got the Knicks top 5. Bulls needed 3pt shooting (would have loved guys like Melo/KP) Knicks need penetrator and leader (Noah and Rose fit the bill). Turns out the ideal combination of players converged in NY. Add a 3 and D guy like Lee and we can certainly make noise. Knicks were on track to playoffs before Melo went down with a trainwreck of a team. Now there are concerns about injusry but even with a few injuries the Knicks have a starting 5 that can maintain (Rose/Lee/Melo/KP/Noah) much better than last years abomination (Jose/Aflalo/Melo/KP/Lopez). There's no real dropoff in bench when we were throwing guys like Amundson and Seraphin in the mix.

1. CAVS
2. CELTS
3. KNICKS (49 wins)
4. RAPS
5. PACERS
6. PISTONS
7. BUCKS
8. HORNETS

The thing is - you can make an argument like this for most teams in the east. What you're describing is the Knicks upside, not their projection. They also have a downside if Rose gets hurt or continues to just not be very good. Same with Noah. I think they're with a bunch of other teams that will fight for the last spot or two.

Sure. You can predict Rose goes down. You can predict Melo and/or Noah goes down. But much of these predictions I'm seeing puts the Knicks in 10-13th place which assumes many of these guys go down at the same time for a long time. We have a team with arguably the 2nd/3rd best starting lineup and many here predicting the worse case scenarios. We'll likely fall in the middle 4-6 range yet I make my prediction based on a few injuries (maybe Rose at some point and Melo as well) but with guys like Noah/Lee/Jennings/KP filling roles where Derrick Williams, Galloway and Sasha Vujacic, OQuinn were never capable of doing after the losses to key starting lineup players. This total collapse of the Knicks, just as with any team, is possible but total disaster realm something not being factored to many of the other teams here .

TankShow · Post #197 » by **TankShow** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:07 am

Cavaliers (60-22)
Raptors (53-29)
Celtics (50-32)
Bulls (50-32)
Pacers (47-35)
Magic (45-37)
Pistons (42-40)
Hawks (41-41)
Knicks (40-42)
Bucks (37-45)
Hornets (34-48)
Wizards (32-50)
Nets (24-58)
Heat (19-63)
Sixers (17-65)

PhillyNj · Post #198 » by **PhillyNj** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:44 pm

TankShow wrote:Cavaliers (60-22)
Raptors (53-29)
Celtics (50-32)
Bulls (50-32)
Pacers (47-35)
Magic (45-37)
Pistons (42-40)
Hawks (41-41)
Knicks (40-42)
Bucks (37-45)
Hornets (34-48)
Wizards (32-50)
Nets (24-58)
Heat (19-63)
Sixers (17-65)

Bulls have NO SHOT at 50 wins wow!
my over under for the Bulls would be 32

chi4lyfe · Post #199 » by **chi4lyfe** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm

PhillyNj wrote:
TankShow wrote:Cavaliers (60-22)
Raptors (53-29)
Celtics (50-32)
Bulls (50-32)
Pacers (47-35)
Magic (45-37)
Pistons (42-40)
Hawks (41-41)
Knicks (40-42)
Bucks (37-45)
Hornets (34-48)
Wizards (32-50)
Nets (24-58)
Heat (19-63)
Sixers (17-65)

Bulls have NO SHOT at 50 wins wow!
my over under for the Bulls would be 32

Bulls got 10 games worse? Okie dokie.

Post #200 » by **pacers33granger** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:47 pm

Cornbread wrote:Indy is becoming really overrated by some. I don't like the way the pieces fit together. Jefferson, Young, and Ellis on the floor together doesn't seem to be a great fit. Hill to Teague is different, but not a ton better. They may be marginally improved over last year, but I don't think they make a big leap.

A marginal improvement would put us at about 50 wins, which was good enough for the 3rd seed last year. And odds are Jefferson barely plays with Ellis and Young. He's coming off the bench.