2014 NBA Redraft (Lottery)

[Crazy-Canuck]

Hyped as one of the better drafts, but injuries derailed the hype quickly.

However, we still have respected fanbases declaring their players untouchable.

Actual

1. Wiggins
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. A.Gordon
5. D.Exum
6. M.Smart
7. J.Randle
8. Stauskus
9. Vonleh
10. E.Payton
11. D.McDermott
12. D. Saric
13. Z.Lavine
14. TJ Warren


My Take

1. Wiggins
2. Parker
3. Jokic
4. A. Gordon
5. R.Hood
6. J.Embiid
7. Z.Lavine
8. C.Capela
9. M.Smart
10.J.Clarkson
11. E.Payton
12. D.Saric
13. D.Exum
14. J.Randle


I think it starts getting tough after 5.

[Patsfan1081]

I think if you're keeping Gordon at his original draft position you have to keep Exum and Smart at theirs. We knew Exum was a project and that he would take time to develope, as long as the injuries aren't career threatening like Embiid I still think he has one of the highest upside. Yes, Smart's shooting isn't where people thought it would be but he still is second in the draft class overall in bpm and vorp, he effects the game in a lot of different ways. They both still have more upside than most in the draft, no way I pass n either for Capela or Embiid.

[brackdan70]

Wiggins

Jokic
Parker

Smart
Gordon
Hood
Capela

Exum
Embiid
Anderson
Harris
Lavine
Payton

Saric
with Randle and Clarkson and Nurkic in the mix

Wiggins is still clear #1
Jokic and Parker next but only really one full season to judge

Smart, Gordon, Capela, Hood have all proven to be positive contributors

kind of murky after that to me. all good players or high potential still.

[Duke4life831]

I think I'd go

1. Parker
2. Wiggins
3. Jokic
4. Gordon
5. Hood
6. Lavine
7. Payton
8. Clarkson
9. Exum
10. Embiid
11. Smart
12. Randle
13. Capela
14. McBuckets

I like my top 6-7. After that kinda became a little more random

[HotelVitale]

I think if you're keeping Gordon at his original draft position you have to keep Exum and Smart at theirs. We knew Exum was a project and that he would take time to develope, as long as the injuries aren't career threatening like Embiid I still think he has one of the highest upside. Yes, Smart's shooting isn't where people thought it would be but he still is second in the draft class overall in bpm and vorp, he effects the game in a lot of different ways. They both still have more upside than most in the draft, no way I pass n either for Capela or Embiid.

Gordon was very good last year and is trending up by any measure, while Exum was bad and then injured and Smart has everyone worrying that he's plateauing.

Gordon was significantly better than Smart in BPM and VORP last year, btw, and I'd bet a bunch of other guys passed up Smart last year (the stat you're quoting adds together both 2014-15 and 2015-16, but Smart unusually didn't improve his advanced #s while like 40 other guys from that class did).

[QRich3]

This draft class was weird. Two full seasons into it, and I still can't get a pulse on what kind of careers guys like Exum, Parker, Lavine, even Gordon and Wiggins are gonna have in the NBA. Obviously not Saric or Embiid either.

For instance, with the 2015 class, you get a pretty good idea of which of the top prospects are gonna evolve into well rounded two-way players, and which will make a living of a couple defined skills and always be flawed at the rest of their game. With the 2014 class, I have no idea if Parker, Wiggins and Lavine are ever gonna figure out how to play solid defense, or even solid team-oriented offense with the former two. They've all shown flashes but it could still go horribly wrong for them. Or if Exum and Gordon, maybe even Smart, are gonna develop which offensive skills, or if they're always gonna be flawed role players whith severe weaknesses.

I wouldn't have a clue how to re-draft this class, not much more than I did on draft day anyway.

[No-Man]

It's still early, like too many guys to judge to have a fair assesment just yet, I will make my guess just to check it a year from now and adjust it, but re-ranking 2013 makes much more sense since they enter their contract year this season

for sure I'm gonna miss some europeans guys that might end up coming over

1st round

Nikola Jokić
Andrew Wiggins
Rodney Hood
Aaron Gordon
Dante Exum
Zach LaVine
Marcus Smart
Jusuf Nurkić
Clint Capela
Jabari Parker
Joel Embiid*
Gary Harris
Dario Šarić
Tyler Johnson
Jerami Grant
Elfrid Payton
Noah Vonleh
Doug McDermott
Jordan Clarkson
Julius Randle
Langston Galloway
T.J. Warren
Kyle Anderson
Dwight Powell
Bogdan Bogdanović
Tim Frazier
Glenn Robinson III
Alessandro Gentile
Nemanja Dangubić
Tarik Black

2nd round

Jordan Adams
Mitch McGary
Sean Kilpatrick
Jarnell Stokes
James Young
Damien Inglis
Bruno Caboclo
P.J. Hairston
Axel Toupane
K.J. McDaniels
Markel Brown
Spencer Dinwiddie
Tyler Ennis
Jordan McRae
James Michael McAdoo
Nik Stauskas
Walter Tavares
Josh Huestis
Nick Johnson
Lamar Patterson
Joe Harris
Louis Labeyrie
Alec Brown
Shabazz Napier
Jarell Eddie
JaKarr Sampson
C.J. Wilcox
Thanasis Antetokounmpo
Mam Jaiteh
Semaj Christon

10-11 undrafted guys

Bryce Cotton
Xavier Munford
Adreian Payne
Cleanthony Early
Cameron Bairstow
Cory Jefferson
Johnny O'Bryant III
Roy Devyn Marble
DeAndre Daniels
Russ Smith /Vasilije Micić

[reanimator]

Andrew Wiggins
Nikola Jokić
Jabari Parker
Rodney Hood
Aaron Gordon
Dante Exum
Joel Embiid
Gary Harris
Elfrid Payton
Clint Capela
Marcus Smart
Zach LaVine
Jordan Clarkson
Dario Šarić

[Catchall]

I like Hood as much as the next guy and think he could have an impact similar to Allan Houston from back in the day, but I still wouldn't draft Hood ahead of Exum. If Exum pans out, he could be a game-changer.

[EMG518]

I haven't seen anything from this draft that would make me change my mind on taking a shot with Embiid at 1.

[GimmeDat]

It's definitely hard to come to conclusions about many of these guys yet, so I hesitate to do a redraft at this point. I will say, Jokic/Parker/Wiggins are a clear top 3, with Embiid potentially joining them in that tier should he stay healthy.

Gordon, Hood, LaVine the 2nd tier, with Exum potentially in this tier if he comes back healthy and makes good strides.

3rd tier, Payton, Smart, Clarkson, Randle, Nurkic, McDermott, Warren, Capella, Harris, Johnson. Saric likely fits this group, maybe even 2nd.

4th tier Grant, McGary, Vonleh, Galloway, Powell etc. Vonleh's pretty raw, I think he could end up higher.

[MotownMadness]

Glad Vonleh is looking like a bust seeing as that's the pick Dumars basically just gave away

[No-Man]

People are insanely high on Jabari, when even if everything breaks right he is likely going to be a scorer that doesn't do much more, he would still go top10 likely, but top3? not even close.

[CptCrunch]

Post ASG Parker was the best rookie of his class.

Wiggins right now is an inefficient shot chucking wing player who can't shoot, play defense or initiate offense.

[Duke4life831]

Post ASG Parker was the best rookie of his class.

Wiggins right now is an inefficient shot chucking wing player who can't shoot, play defense or initiate offense.

Wiggins was efficient post ASG as well. But ya Wiggins defense is just as bad as Jabari's but he seems to get a pass still because he was known as a high potential defender coming into the league. Wiggins doesnt, pass, rebound or defend. It was close but I do agree that Jabari looked like the best guy from his class post ASG.

[Duke4life831]

I like Hood as much as the next guy and think he could have an impact similar to Allan Houston from back in the day, but I still wouldn't draft Hood ahead of Exum. If Exum pans out, he could be a game-changer.

Hood has the most Win Shares so far out of anyone in this draft class. Hood was the far superior Rookie out of the two for Utah last year. Exum was a massive wildcard coming into the draft and his first year wasnt a good showing at all. Then missing all of last year, I think Hood is going to end up the better player out of the two

[sipclip]

People are insanely high on Jabari, when even if everything breaks right he is likely going to be a scorer that doesn't do much more, he would still go top10 likely, but top3? not even close.

You don't know what you are talking about. Parker is clearly top 3 still.

[YourBuddy]

Post ASG Parker was the best rookie of his class.

Wiggins right now is an inefficient shot chucking wing player who can't shoot, play defense or initiate offense.

No he wasn't. Wiggins scored more and was more efficient than Parker post all star break and still a better defender than Parker.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Exum's defense got him into the starting lineup over Trey Burke, and Utah had one of the best records in the league post-all star break with Dante starting. Yes, he was very timid offensively, but as someone already pointed out, he was expected to be a project. Utah definitely missed his defense last year. Between his defense and the team winning with him as a starter, I think he did just fine for a project. Lots of projects take several years before they are able to contribute to a winning team as a starter. I think it gets blown out of proportion when fans talk about how bad he was, because they're just looking at stats and don't take the actual games into account.