With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

YogurtProducer · Post #1121 » by **YogurtProducer** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:05 am

Missed the game, what’d he do well tonight?

Psubs · Post #1122 » by **Psubs** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:08 am

YogurtProducer wrote:Missed the game, what’d he do well tonight?

He started the game 4 of 5 from deep! Scored 14 points in 6 mins.

Ended up with 27 points in 27 mins. :nod:

Post #1123 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:10 am

YogurtProducer wrote:Missed the game, what’d he do well tonight?

What's not in the box score is he probably had 2-3 great passes that weren't converted that should have been. So 5-6 assists should be in the box score.

Syd-TK3 · Post #1124 » by **Syd-TK3** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:27 am

Yeah he got some sneaky on ball potential

PhilBlackson · Post #1125 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:49 am

JaKobe looks like he could make it a real debate for who should be the future starting SG....good problem to have.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1126 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:11 am

I can't think of a more impressive rookie performance. Just the way he got his buckets - the finesse, the variety... *chefs kiss*

Kids got some SERIOUS potential.

SpiderMunn · Post #1127 » by **SpiderMunn** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:17 am

#FalterforWalter

TheProfessor · Post #1128 » by **TheProfessor** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:35 am

Kid might be terrible as a whole in terms of production/stats/impact, but he is flashing skills which is nice to see, hopefully the skills lead to production in year 2/3.

Thaddy · Post #1129 » by **Thaddy** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:08 am

He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

XTC · Post #1130 » by **XTC** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:03 am

Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

Jakobe Walter 6-10
Gradey Dick 6-9
Immanuel Quickley 6-8
RJ Barrett 6-10

All our guards have pretty long arms. It's actually nice to see considering all our guards in the past have been quite small.

DreamTeam09 · Post #1131 » by **DreamTeam09** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:48 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:He's literally the best player on the board, you other option was to go big with either Missi/Kyle/Tyler Smith.

Jaylon Tyson was his next opp, we went with jakobe. I am happy. He's gonna be pro and will contribute one day with potential. Can't ask for more at 19.

Someone and-1 so I'm just just here tooting my own horn from draft Day.
I am a Jaylon Tyson fan tho, but jakobe was BPA seeing how he's younger than him and definitely the better defender.
We could've gone big with Missi but his prototype is common, we took Chomche

Jerry Lucas · Post #1132 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:36 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:He's literally the best player on the board, you other option was to go big with either Missi/Kyle/Tyler Smith.

Jaylon Tyson was his next opp, we went with jakobe. I am happy. He's gonna be pro and will contribute one day with potential. Can't ask for more at 19.

Someone and-1 so I'm just just here tooting my own horn from draft Day.
I am a Jaylon Tyson fan tho, but jakobe was BPA seeing how he's younger than him and definitely the better defender.
We could've gone big with Missi but his prototype is common, we took Chomche

If we're tooting our own horns for and-1s, try 5-6 months before the Raptors even drafted Ja'Kobe. I made some posts around that time talking about how high I was on him as a prospect, and also that he happened to be producing like what I tend to refer to as a "Masai-type FRP."

I'm going to post the links instead of quote myself to not take up too much space in one post, otherwise I'd be quoting myself 4 times (some may have thought I was Ja'Kobe spamming at the time lol):

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=109799773#p109799773
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=110099239#p110099239
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=110829460#p110829460
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=110830588#p110830588

raincityraptors · Post #1133 » by **raincityraptors** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:25 pm

raincityraptors wrote:
YelloC wrote:Funny thing I noticed while doing a post draft deep dive on Ja’Kobe was while comparing him to Mathurin as a recent draftee:
Ja’Kobe at 6’ 4.25 barefoot was described as having good size for a wing.
Mathurin at 6’ 4.50 barefoot was described as having tremendous size for a wing while giving up an inch in wingspan and weighing 7 pounds more. He was also listed at 6’ 7 on the initial bio.
Ja’ Kobe’s perceived size deficiency seems to be getting over exaggerated among draft pundits.

Even though Dick was in a better draft, I think Ja'kobe could be just as good or better.

That said, the difference between him and Mathurin is probably strength.

Once he gets stronger - which may take a year or 2 - and he learns how to use it on both ends, he'll be a steal at 19.

I thought it would take until year 2 for Ja'kobe to show he is every bit as good as Dick (in different ways). I'm just happy none of y'all flamed me for posting that I think he could be better.

He's already one of my favorite players on the team and I want to see him play as many minutes as he can handle. I didn't think he would have the strength to be an effective defender so soon. He still isn't strong enough yet but man the kid shows so much heart!

He is playing his behind off for us on both ends and I'm so glad 18 other teams didn't call his name.

I hope he has a long, long career as a Toronto Raptor. He's already one of the most fun players to watch on both sides of the ball. I see star potential. Lately I have been calling him "Rich Man's Immanuel Quickley" and can see him stealing that starting spot one day.

Imagine what he is going to look like after he goes through a full offseason of development and his first NBA training camp . . .

The Pascal trade is starting to look a hell of a lot better to me with the way he and Ochai are playing now.

Thaddy · Post #1134 » by **Thaddy** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:06 pm

He was a 5 star recruit and projected top 5 pick to start the college season. Him falling to us was a bigger fall than Knecht. People let JKW go off their radar.

ArthurVandelay · Post #1135 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:36 pm

Thaddy wrote:He was a 5 star recruit and projected top 5 pick to start the college season. Him falling to us was a bigger fall than Knecht. People let JKW go off their radar.

I was one.

Super high on him December last year then he stunk it up with a knee injury

Goes to show many basketball executives are as fickle as the rest of us…but not Bobby, Dan, and Masai!

gbball · Post #1136 » by **gbball** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:51 pm

Like some others have said he's got some SGA in his game, obviously he's a long ways from being a comparable player. It's a comp I was hopeful for at some point down the road if he improved his on ball creation skills. But it looks like he's way ahead of what I thought in that regard.

Most impressive is the maturity and the way he can make good things happen out of nothing. He's got some of Lowry's tenacity and compete in him too.

I'm looking forward to seeing how he does the rest of this season.

Post #1137 » by **Reeko** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:47 pm

Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

Projecting forward, I don't see why our solution wouldn't be to have both Gradey and Ja'Kobe starting. Does IQ do anything other than maybe passing at a higher level than those two are projected to? I think they both have a lot of potential in terms of passing as well tbh. We'll see, maybe Quickley really has taken that next step to where you can conclusively say that he's our PG of the future but as of right now I'm not fully bought in on that idea.

mademan · Post #1138 » by **mademan** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:04 pm

Reeko wrote:
Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

Projecting forward, I don't see why our solution wouldn't be to have both Gradey and Ja'Kobe starting. Does IQ do anything other than maybe passing at a higher level than those two are projected to? I think they both have a lot of potential in terms of passing as well tbh. We'll see, maybe Quickley really has taken that next step to where you can conclusively say that he's our PG of the future but as of right now I'm not fully bought in on that idea.

As of now, IQ is really the only guy besides RJ who can get into the paint and put pressure at the rim. Scottie can't do really do that from the 3pt line like those guys. If Walter improves to the point he can, then ya, no reason he cant share point guard duties with Scottie in a starting lineup. Probably works even more if we end up with Flagg or Demin to play SF

Post #1139 » by **Reeko** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:16 pm

mademan wrote:
Reeko wrote:
Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

Projecting forward, I don't see why our solution wouldn't be to have both Gradey and Ja'Kobe starting. Does IQ do anything other than maybe passing at a higher level than those two are projected to? I think they both have a lot of potential in terms of passing as well tbh. We'll see, maybe Quickley really has taken that next step to where you can conclusively say that he's our PG of the future but as of right now I'm not fully bought in on that idea.

As of now, IQ is really the only guy besides RJ who can get into the paint and put pressure at the rim. Scottie can't do really do that from the 3pt line like those guys. If Walter improves to the point he can, then ya, no reason he cant share point guard duties with Scottie in a starting lineup. Probably works even more if we end up with Flagg or Demin to play SF

That's not true, Gradey puts more pressure on the rim than anybody outside of RJ. And Gradey actually gets all the way to the rim, he's not pulling up for floaters.

Thaddy · Post #1140 » by **Thaddy** » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:24 pm

Reeko wrote:
Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a good player for us as soon as a few months. He'll be making a case for a starting role by next season. He would be a great third option that also provides defense and rebounding.

He has more tools than Gradey. I can see him being a starter over him. He makes sense next to IQ because of his defensive side and massive wingspan.

Projecting forward, I don't see why our solution wouldn't be to have both Gradey and Ja'Kobe starting. Does IQ do anything other than maybe passing at a higher level than those two are projected to? I think they both have a lot of potential in terms of passing as well tbh. We'll see, maybe Quickley really has taken that next step to where you can conclusively say that he's our PG of the future but as of right now I'm not fully bought in on that idea.

IQ scores the above the break 3 better than a lot of guys in the NBA, he has issues getting up volume though. Until Gradey and Walter can get their three point shots in line they aren't overtaking IQ.