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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1241 » by stellation » Wed Oct 8, 2025 10:47 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:I've got to believe all this weird arse trauma is you guys reliving something your dip **** quarterbacks have done to you over the years that I haven't followed.

Every **** offseason.


nah...it all started with bogut

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That one was a relief, also a long arse time ago. Don't even remember the return anymore

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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1242 » by raferfenix » Wed Oct 8, 2025 11:00 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:He's literally spelling it out for us and being 100% honest. He's committed to the team this season. "In 6-7 months" that could change, i.e. if things really go south with this group, then maybe it's time to part ways.


I think this is right.

He definitely could be handling it better.

But it’s not because he is scripting out a LeBron kind of passive aggressive pressure campaign.

And I don’t see him pulling a Jimmy / AD / Dame long haul scorched earth strategy to get to a particular team…

Then again barring a corrupt Luka situation (possible!) I just don’t see how the Knicks beat the best offers the Spurs and Rockets could make.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1243 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Oct 8, 2025 11:02 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
soxperry wrote:Is there a chance that Giannis is helping Horat pump the value of our 31 1st and whatever swaps we have?


I bought into that theory a few years back. And think it was true. But now? No. Those 2031 and 2032 picks are so far out that Giannis is either retired or a non-factor in those years.

And those picks are so far out that frankly I’m not sure they’re worth that much to other teams either.

It's a fun theory but I just don't see Giannis as that much of a 3d chess guy. He's human and I bet the so called "noise" he's referring to with the media gets to him more than he likes to let on. If that's the case then we're running out the clock on the Giannis era because that will never stop. The media will forever hold it against him as long as he's here.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1244 » by BucksFanSD » Wed Oct 8, 2025 11:05 pm

Personally, I believe Giannis is done with losing in the first round, especially to the Pacers players. In other words, I believe what he says. The Knicks are also tired of losing to the Pacers, and they're the best team in the East with Giannis (especially now that Myles Turner signed elsewhere). Part of me thinks this Bucks team could surprise and we make it out of the first round this year, which prompts Giannis to stay. But if we don't, again, I believe Giannis.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1245 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Oct 8, 2025 11:08 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
soxperry wrote:Is there a chance that Giannis is helping Horat pump the value of our 31 1st and whatever swaps we have?


I bought into that theory a few years back. And think it was true. But now? No. Those 2031 and 2032 picks are so far out that Giannis is either retired or a non-factor in those years.

And those picks are so far out that frankly I’m not sure they’re worth that much to other teams either.


The idea of Giannis being a non factor in those years makes those picks extremely valuable.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1246 » by raferfenix » Wed Oct 8, 2025 11:08 pm

Eric Nehm filed:

Antetokounmpo said that while he considers his options during the offseason, something that he has publicly discussed doing for years, any consideration of another opportunity ends when the season begins.

“I’ve always wanted to be in Milwaukee. I always wanted to represent the city. As long as we have the opportunity to win and I feel like we have an opportunity to win. … So I’m here. Milwaukee Bucks, I’m here.

“There’s going to be a lot of people that are going to approach me or going to approach my agents and they’re going to say, ‘Hey, this is a possibility, that’s a possibility,’” Antetokounmpo said. “But at the end of the day, ultimately, I’m going to make a decision. My decision today is that I’m here. And I’m committed to this team.”


Antetokounmpo said that while he is familiar with the rumors and reporting surrounding his future, some of his newer teammates have not been through that before and may be affected by it. He knows he will need to continue to validate his teammates and lead with his own actions, but hopes that Wednesday will be the end of distractions surrounding his name.

“I think after this interview here, I’m not going to see it,” Antetokounmpo said. “You guys are going to see it. It’s going to have you guys’ names on there. Report from Jim (Owczarski) and Eric (Nehm): ‘Giannis is committed to Milwaukee and committed to this team.’ And it’s going to end it.”


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6701208/2025/10/08/giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-reports-bucks/
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1247 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:09 am

BucksFanSD wrote:Personally, I believe Giannis is done with losing in the first round, especially to the Pacers players. In other words, I believe what he says. The Knicks are also tired of losing to the Pacers, and they're the best team in the East with Giannis (especially now that Myles Turner signed elsewhere). Part of me thinks this Bucks team could surprise and we make it out of the first round this year, which prompts Giannis to stay. But if we don't, again, I believe Giannis.


If he’s sick of losing in the first round he should play in that round. I don’t buy the narrative that Horst and his drafting is to blame. The lineups we’ve had the past few years, even with the Middleton injury, should be getting out of the first round. Giannis is part of us not winning.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1248 » by Plossum » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:12 am

This year is gonna be rough with the media. Giannis and the team are gonna be getting this question every time they’re in front of a mic. And if we start the season slowly…. **** is gonna be unbearable :lol:
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1249 » by mke_design » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:39 am

AussieBuck wrote:I've got to believe all this weird arse trauma is you guys reliving something your dip **** quarterbacks have done to you over the years that I haven't followed.

Every **** offseason.


As a traumatized Wisconsin sports fan, I’m even shocked at the level of trauma I feel like I’m reading. Just a prepared for doom group.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1250 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:44 am

BucksFanSD wrote:Personally, I believe Giannis is done with losing in the first round...

That's all well and good as long as he remembers that 2 of those years we lost because he was injured.
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Re: Giannis Thread - [emoji2389][emoji[emoji2390]39[emoji2389]]th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1251 » by Finn » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:46 am

MickeyDavis wrote:GM's receive a plethora of calls from other GM's. Virtually every player is discussed at some point. Kicking the tires. The Knicks aren't the first and won't be the last. And Horst "taking their call" is what a GM should do.

I'm not going to sweat it or analyze/overanalyze every little thing. That's pointless. I'll just continue to enjoy watching Giannis until he's no longer a Buck. And then I'll continue to root for whoever is on my team.

This. This situation is so far out of my control that it makes no sense to me to sweat it. Not to mention that we don’t even know fact from fiction. If Giannis is here, GO BUCKS. If Giannis is gone, GO BUCKS.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1252 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:53 am

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BucksFanSD wrote:Personally, I believe Giannis is done with losing in the first round...

That's all well and good as long as he remembers that 2 of those years we lost because he was injured.


The other one Dames Achilles exploded mid series.
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Post#1253 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:55 am

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raferfenix wrote:His “day by day” comment seems more in regards to leading the team.

Was struck more by the specificity of “Now, in 6 or 7 months if I change my mind, I think that’s human too”.

That timeline matches up exactly with an early playoff elimination in April or May.

Sounds like if he asks out it’d be before draft day. Which is only fair if the team would be stockpiling picks for another big trade by then.


if youre setting a "6-7 month timetable" while your also taking it "day by day"...thats talking out of both sides of your mouth. imagine any one of us pubically saying that in our organizations to the people we work with or for. its a massive dick move his quote. if id played with a guy like that id confront him.

Lol, imagine any of us working for the same organization for ten years and people getting pissed because we leave and want to live in a different city. 1. No one is asking me publicly what my plans are 2. Most people leave their jobs with a 2 weeks notice and the business gets no compensation.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1254 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Oct 9, 2025 12:58 am

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soxperry wrote:Is there a chance that Giannis is helping Horat pump the value of our 31 1st and whatever swaps we have?


I bought into that theory a few years back. And think it was true. But now? No. Those 2031 and 2032 picks are so far out that Giannis is either retired or a non-factor in those years.

And those picks are so far out that frankly I’m not sure they’re worth that much to other teams either.


The idea of Giannis being a non factor in those years makes those picks extremely valuable.

I think he's saying that the "I'm leaving" card to pump up value doesn't work for 2031 because honestly it is probably more valuable if he is here because he will be less impactful and probably a lottery team after we use up all our assets between now and then.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1255 » by Packbuckman » Thu Oct 9, 2025 2:04 am

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soxperry wrote:Is there a chance that Giannis is helping Horat pump the value of our 31 1st and whatever swaps we have?


I bought into that theory a few years back. And think it was true. But now? No. Those 2031 and 2032 picks are so far out that Giannis is either retired or a non-factor in those years.

And those picks are so far out that frankly I’m not sure they’re worth that much to other teams either.

It's a fun theory but I just don't see Giannis as that much of a 3d chess guy. He's human and I bet the so called "noise" he's referring to with the media gets to him more than he likes to let on. If that's the case then we're running out the clock on the Giannis era because that will never stop. The media will forever hold it against him as long as he's here.

You know what ends all that noise is winning having a season that will shut up all the media. You don’t hear that much for jokic because they didn’t get knocked out in first round and to media it don’t matter who was hurt. I really like this team it has a lot of potential especially defensively.
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Re: Giannis Thread - "The Finals are different, I hope to be back soon with the Bucks" 

Post#1256 » by ReginaldDwight » Thu Oct 9, 2025 2:36 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
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raferfenix wrote:His “day by day” comment seems more in regards to leading the team.

Was struck more by the specificity of “Now, in 6 or 7 months if I change my mind, I think that’s human too”.

That timeline matches up exactly with an early playoff elimination in April or May.

Sounds like if he asks out it’d be before draft day. Which is only fair if the team would be stockpiling picks for another big trade by then.


if youre setting a "6-7 month timetable" while your also taking it "day by day"...thats talking out of both sides of your mouth. imagine any one of us pubically saying that in our organizations to the people we work with or for. its a massive dick move his quote. if id played with a guy like that id confront him.

Lol, imagine any of us working for the same organization for ten years and people getting pissed because we leave and want to live in a different city. 1. No one is asking me publicly what my plans are 2. Most people leave their jobs with a 2 weeks notice and the business gets no compensation.

Yeah you got a guaranteed contract worth 10's of million's of dollars at your gig? Apples to Oranges.
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Re: Giannis Thread - "The Finals are different, I hope to be back soon with the Bucks" 

Post#1257 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Oct 9, 2025 3:49 am

ReginaldDwight wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
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if youre setting a "6-7 month timetable" while your also taking it "day by day"...thats talking out of both sides of your mouth. imagine any one of us pubically saying that in our organizations to the people we work with or for. its a massive dick move his quote. if id played with a guy like that id confront him.

Lol, imagine any of us working for the same organization for ten years and people getting pissed because we leave and want to live in a different city. 1. No one is asking me publicly what my plans are 2. Most people leave their jobs with a 2 weeks notice and the business gets no compensation.

Yeah you got a guaranteed contract worth 10's of million's of dollars at your gig? Apples to Oranges.

I wasn't the one that made the first comparison. I'm the one saying it's different.

In this day and age, I don't get why people think a guy like him should have some unbreakable loyalty to the Bucks* when he is just a human being. He's not from here, his family isn't from here, he didn't ask to come here. He has signed multiple contracts with us and gave us all he had that included a ring. As long as he leaves gracefully, there are no hard feelings

*Again, except for the abstract fans, who is he being loyal to? An owner, GM, coaches, teammates, training facility, stadium, workers, etc have all turned over since he has been here.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1258 » by humanrefutation » Thu Oct 9, 2025 4:37 am

Ron Swanson wrote:He's literally spelling it out for us and being 100% honest. He's committed to the team this season. "In 6-7 months" that could change, i.e. if things really go south with this group, then maybe it's time to part ways. Again, people love to read between the lines on almost every quote and soundbite over the years.....except all the times he told you exactly what he was all about ("I want to be here as long as we can compete for championships") lol. He's never said he'd never leave. He's always said "things can change". To call him a flip-flopper is insane. Not believing his actions and words over the years is a choice.


Yeah, that's what I meant by earlier when I said that Giannis is almost too honest. He's being **** on by some fans here for not slamming the door on ever asking out, even though he's saying what we all pretty much knew.

I don't get the additional angst, frankly. He's up for an extension next fall. We knew that next summer was going to be the tipping point, one way or another. Maybe the team will surprise in a weak conference, and Horst will push the chips in again and pick up a difference maker that keeps Giannis here. Or, maybe we'll have another disappointing season, and Giannis will surprise absolutely no one by declining any extension offer and asking out.

But that's where we we've been since the season ended. So, what's everyone panicking about? Nothing has changed.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1259 » by soxperry » Thu Oct 9, 2025 4:45 am

Just watched the Giannis presser from today. I find it hard to read it any other way than he is committing full on for this entire season. 6 to 7 months from now is well after the trade deadline. it's basically the end of the season. so this is what we needed to hear and i'm very glad that he recognized that and did it. now we can move on and hope that we are able to put something together in order to keep him.
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Re: Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks 

Post#1260 » by Daver » Thu Oct 9, 2025 6:09 am

How many on this board think the bucks shold of been to at least 2 more finals.I raise my hsnd.2019 they beat toronto they are curb stomping tbe warriors n in 2022 if midds healthy they beat tje Cs n take care of busnuess in the finals also.

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