Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

So this will be his 13 season for Bucks.

Jordan gave 13 to Bulls
Magic gave 13 to Lakers
Bird gave 13 to Celtics

Thank you Giannis no matter what

love this and its true....will adore the last 13 years as great times...

but doesnt change the fact the current situation is publically...with his entire fam in greece.....

im here but the owner is nutsack and in 6 months i could change my mind about the whole thing
but...i believe in these guys. i really believe in these guys. theyre good guys

thats the current sitch. its ok to look back at khris and bled and feel more optimism for those years. doesnt make you wrong tho. not at all. it was a hell of a run

[Ron Swanson]

Giannis still being committed for this season, putting up monster, likely career high numbers across the board, and then if we suck/it doesn't work out, going to the front office and saying "sorry guys, I'm not gonna sign the extension right now because I don't have faith this roster can compete for titles unless something changes" is pretty much the biggest solid he can do for the franchise if this is how it has to unfortunately end.

You then have a 4-7 month window to oversee a bidding war and recoup a massive amount of assets to jump start the inevitable rebuild that you otherwise wouldn't have a chance to if he was some selfish **** loser like Lebron or KD who just lies about being loyal and then bolts at the first sign of adversity. How more people aren't seeing it this way is beyond me.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Giannis still being committed for this season, putting up monster, likely career high numbers across the board, and then if we suck/it doesn't work out, going to the front office and saying "sorry guys, I'm not gonna sign the extension right now because I don't have faith this roster can compete for titles unless something changes" is pretty much the biggest solid he can do for the franchise if this is how it has to unfortunately end.

You then have a 4-7 month window to oversee a bidding war and recoup a massive amount of assets to jump start the inevitable rebuild that you otherwise wouldn't have a chance to if he was some selfish **** loser like Lebron or KD who just lies about being loyal and then bolts at the first sign of adversity. How more people aren't seeing it this way is beyond me.

im with you. thats what i thought we were getting into this year after the offseason. it never crossed my mind he would be half in which is my only issue. hes half in. theres only like a small smattering of basketball fans that see it any other way tho Ron. the bucks fans are homers on this one. hes half in this year. thats it. half in. the whole world sees it. im not sure why youre being curious about it? you are one of the sharp ones here!!

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Dude, just say "I need Giannis to come out and explicitly say that he's a Buck forever and that he'll never ask for a trade because my emotional investment as a fan entirely depends on it. Anything short of that and I don't believe he's ever been committed to the franchise 100% so you might as well just trade him now because **** him".

I mean, that's at least the honest, TL:DR version of every rant I've seen. But does that make it sound any less insane of an expectation to hold any pro athlete to? Uhhh...

its not so much that. im leading up to the real point.

id trade him for any other bucket getter in the league under 25 or so who wants to make a mark. not like a brandon jennings guy obviously. but like the 10-15 guys in this league that are hungry, healthy, and have a superstar-ish future. like cade for example. straight up not even a question.

giannis doesnt have a future man. not here or anywhere unless we "hook him up" in the right spot with the perfect sitch hed need to compete and maybe win #2 if the better teams all got injured and he had the matchup and everything he'd need like the last time

he isnt built for this man. he just isnt. hes westbrook but he got one ya know?

So, you want Giannis to be loyal to the Bucks no matter what, but you'd be willing to trade Giannis in a heartbeat for the right offer.

if hes not 100% all in then abso-effing-lutely....like literally duh!!!!

hes older, expensive, injury prone, not ideal for the modern game, recent record of trey young level of massive failure.....so if hes not loyal then jesus what are people looking at here????

im going to repeat it...hes westbrook who got one.... thats it. thats what i believe and nobody will talk me out of that either. we could trade him for 15 guys in this league whod be better built for the next decade!!!! maybe more

his loyalty is the only reason id run it out with him!!!

but even if im wrong....if a guy is one foot in and one foot out. i just dont want that around my team. thats just me but i think most fans would agree there

[raferfenix]

Sir Charles called out Giannis in no uncertain terms with a vehement defense of the Bucks:

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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

sad that charles is a bigger bucks fan than some of the Giannis fanboys around here

i'll let it lie. point is made tho. damn

[PG Graveyard]

Sir Charles called out Giannis in no uncertain terms with a vehement defense of the Bucks:

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He makes a good point.

[Dick Tate]

The 6-7 month 'might change my mind' thing isn't about the extension. The Bucks could win the Ring and he still tells Horst he doesn't want to sign an extension because he has every intention of playing in Greece when his contract expires. Bucks fans would understand.

BUT in reality, the 6-7 month thing is reserving the right to change his mind about playing for the Bucks next season. Since he's UNDER CONTRACT for next season, I can see how that would rub some folks the wrong way.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

The 6-7 month 'might change my mind' thing isn't about the extension. The Bucks could win the Ring and he still tells Horst he doesn't want to sign an extension because he has every intention of playing in Greece when his contract expires. Bucks fans would understand.

BUT in reality, the 6-7 month thing is reserving the right to change his mind about playing for the Bucks next season. Since he's UNDER CONTRACT for next season, I can see how that would rub some folks the wrong way.

so true...if his alternative is Greece or another challenge in life like trying to be a tight end for the NY Giants then **** yeah. i love that story. thats how a hannibal or alexander or napolean or scipio would have lived their lives.

if its the Knicks then **** you man. thats napolean deciding midstream the british were a better shot at being the greatest ever...or hannibal saying man the romans are where id rather be....because winning!

thats all the dork **** the other guys go for...so fine...be a dork too.... but accept the label bro. youre a dork if thats the plan

[MickeyDavis]

sad that charles is a bigger bucks fan than some of the Giannis fanboys around here

i'll let it lie. point is made tho. damn

One can be a Giannis "fanboy" and be a huge Bucks fan. It's not one or the other. You want to paint everything in absolute terms when sports is anything but.

[paulpressey25]

Just catching up on this stuff now. So now Shams is saying he’ll evaluate where the team is at come Christmas?

[emunney]

Banchero sucks man

[emunney]

Also, does Chuck remember his career? His 13th season came just after he'd maneuvered his way off a team he didn't feel was good enough for the 2nd time.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

sad that charles is a bigger bucks fan than some of the Giannis fanboys around here

i'll let it lie. point is made tho. damn

One can be a Giannis "fanboy" and be a huge Bucks fan. It's not one or the other. You want to paint everything in absolute terms when sports is anything but.

like you im both...but one far outweighs the other.....or at least should on this board....i think as all fans were split on this because emotionally its available and the big decisions arent our call.....

but as a GM you dont have that luxury to play both sides MD. most successful seasons are determined in the margins. this situation is the entire canvas. if youre the GM you need to pick a side and a direction....NOW

all i pray is theres a larger discussion taking place behind the scenes and the lockerrom is cracking up about it...if not then my take is the right one. i feel certain about that. we know how these sitations in modern sports turn out. its always the same

[emunney]

Sir Charles called out Giannis in no uncertain terms with a vehement defense of the Bucks:

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He makes a good point.

Does he, though? It seems like for it to be a good point you have to accept that he said what Chuck said he said, which he didn't.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Sir Charles called out Giannis in no uncertain terms with a vehement defense of the Bucks:

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He makes a good point.

Does he, though? It seems like for it to be a good point you have to accept that he said what Chuck said he said, which he didn't.

i think he did tho. i guess thats the debate isnt it

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Banchero sucks man

orlando will be better this year most likely. would you prefer wagner?

[GoldenAntlers]

I think it's perfectly fine for Giannis to want his children to go to school in Greece. He has his brother, he'll be okay. The man is focused on basketball and now he has a chance to focus on it more than he has in the past however many years since his wife first became pregnant. Of course it will be difficult, but this is him making a family decision, not a decision being made for him a la Dame.

I think it's perfectly fine for Giannis to reevaluate the reality of this team after the season. If he asks out because it's obvious this team doesn't have a path to a chip, none of us could blame him.

I dunno, it's so difficult for me to find a reason to give any of this emotion. I wouldn't even give it attention, but it's everywhere.

Pretty sure this team will surpass expectation and exceed the Dame years in terms of fun for both fans and players alike.

I also think they are more likely to not only get out of the first round, but the second round as well. Next off-season, the conversation will be, "Was last season a fluke? Are the Bucks actually contenders?"

Enjoy the ride, my friends.

[Buckfan76]

My thought is what Ron Swanson said on this post. Giannis is telling us and being 100. If we’re not doing good I suspect Giannis will want out. He of course wants to win. That set aside teams I would engage trade talks with Raptors, Spurs, maybe Hawks, maybe the Knicks but it would need to be a 3 team deal. NOW any team that wants Giannis need to take Kuzma PERIOD!

Raptors I would be interested in are: Scottie Barnes, Quickley, G. Dick or Aghabi, C. Murray -Boyles
Spurs: One of Harper or Castle, Sochan, Vassell, H. Barnes
Hawks: J. Johnson, Risachar, Kennard, A. Newell

[raferfenix]

Just catching up on this stuff now. So now Shams is saying he’ll evaluate where the team is at come Christmas?

Are we sure of this or know where he said it?

Flies in the face of what Giannis just emphasized to the press.

This tweet is the only thing I can find referring to it:

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