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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4061 » by statsman » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:28 pm

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bay2hk wrote:Def dodged a few bullets with the potential s&t for Lauri and PG13 a few offseasons back. MDJ learns quick and proved it during the Kuminga contract negotiation. Don’t think I can say the same about Myers if he was still our GM.


At the time though, the number of people here who were aggressively advocating for the team to acquire Lauri was off the charts. For the longest time I had as my signature the quote of one moron who proclaimed that Lauri was the equivalent of Dirk Nowitzki. :crazy:

There's an argument we could've won a title last year with Lauri. A lineup of Curry/Moody/JB/Dray/Lauri would be really really good.

The counter-argument is Curry, Dray, Butler, and Lauri would NOT have fit under last season's 1st apron hard cap. The additional counter-argument is Lauri missed 35 games last season, including the last 13 games for the Jazz. He would have been of zero help in the postseason.

Speaking of which, Lauri has yet to play in ONE playoff game in his career (two play-in losses in 2022 with the Cavs). Blame the teams all you want, but he hasn't been able to catapult the teams he's played for with his constantly injured carcass.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4062 » by Onus » Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:21 pm

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At the time though, the number of people here who were aggressively advocating for the team to acquire Lauri was off the charts. For the longest time I had as my signature the quote of one moron who proclaimed that Lauri was the equivalent of Dirk Nowitzki. :crazy:

There's an argument we could've won a title last year with Lauri. A lineup of Curry/Moody/JB/Dray/Lauri would be really really good.

The counter-argument is Curry, Dray, Butler, and Lauri would NOT have fit under last season's 1st apron hard cap. The additional counter-argument is Lauri missed 35 games last season, including the last 13 games for the Jazz. He would have been of zero help in the postseason.

Speaking of which, Lauri has yet to play in ONE playoff game in his career (two play-in losses in 2022 with the Cavs). Blame the teams all you want, but he hasn't been able to catapult the teams he's played for with his constantly injured carcass.

Counter argument, Lauri wouldn't have gotten an extension last year so he would've only cost 18M (major reason why he wanted to stay in Utah because he'd get paid quicker by getting an extension). Could Lauri have played in those games or were the Jazz tanking. He seems to always be "injured" at the end of the year when they've given up on the season and are trying to blatantly tank.

Lauri would've been the 4th best player on the team, he's not meant to carry the team, that's what Curry and Jimmy are for.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4063 » by vvoland » Thu Oct 16, 2025 9:38 pm

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At the time though, the number of people here who were aggressively advocating for the team to acquire Lauri was off the charts. For the longest time I had as my signature the quote of one moron who proclaimed that Lauri was the equivalent of Dirk Nowitzki. :crazy:

There's an argument we could've won a title last year with Lauri. A lineup of Curry/Moody/JB/Dray/Lauri would be really really good.

The counter-argument is Curry, Dray, Butler, and Lauri would NOT have fit under last season's 1st apron hard cap. The additional counter-argument is Lauri missed 35 games last season, including the last 13 games for the Jazz. He would have been of zero help in the postseason.

Speaking of which, Lauri has yet to play in ONE playoff game in his career (two play-in losses in 2022 with the Cavs). Blame the teams all you want, but he hasn't been able to catapult the teams he's played for with his constantly injured carcass.


Yea, I'm not sure how we have both Jimmy and Lauri, particularly given the extension both of them got. I guess we could trade JK, Moody, Buddy, Podz, and GP2 to get close to the money this feb but, personally, i think that would be insane. Lauri doesn't seem healthy, even given the discount for Uta's tanking. I'd rather get 65% of Lauri's offense and 250% of his defense in the form of Al Horford, at 10% of the price.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4064 » by cdubbz » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:40 pm

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cdubbz wrote::lol: wow 200+ pages...

Bulls receive: Kuminga
Warriors receive: Vucevic.

Both expiring contracts -- Bulls have no direction and might be enticed by a lengthy lineup of Giddey, Buzelis, Kuminga. I'd feel so much more confident in our bigs if Al Horford doesn't have to play every game and Vucevic and Post can hold it down during the season. Playoffs? Horford and Vucevic.


Not a bad proposal. Have bulls throw in a few SRPs for the TO on JK and call it a deal.


Got a lot of burn from posters on other social media sites cause Vuc doesn't play defense, he's washed, etc etc. I get and see that sometimes esp last year when Post outplayed the hell out of him, but it's one of those desperate trades that could and i have higher hopes for Vuc than JK for this iteration of the team.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4065 » by East Bay Sports » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:41 pm

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Onus wrote:
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At the time though, the number of people here who were aggressively advocating for the team to acquire Lauri was off the charts. For the longest time I had as my signature the quote of one moron who proclaimed that Lauri was the equivalent of Dirk Nowitzki. :crazy:

There's an argument we could've won a title last year with Lauri. A lineup of Curry/Moody/JB/Dray/Lauri would be really really good.

The counter-argument is Curry, Dray, Butler, and Lauri would NOT have fit under last season's 1st apron hard cap. The additional counter-argument is Lauri missed 35 games last season, including the last 13 games for the Jazz. He would have been of zero help in the postseason.

Speaking of which, Lauri has yet to play in ONE playoff game in his career (two play-in losses in 2022 with the Cavs). Blame the teams all you want, but he hasn't been able to catapult the teams he's played for with his constantly injured carcass.

Lauri was sat to tank not because he was unable to play lol
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Post#4066 » by Senchu » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:37 pm

JK + Hield or Moody for Jrue.
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Post#4067 » by Larry Ellison » Fri Oct 17, 2025 8:25 pm

Onus wrote:
statsman wrote:
Onus wrote:There's an argument we could've won a title last year with Lauri. A lineup of Curry/Moody/JB/Dray/Lauri would be really really good.

The counter-argument is Curry, Dray, Butler, and Lauri would NOT have fit under last season's 1st apron hard cap. The additional counter-argument is Lauri missed 35 games last season, including the last 13 games for the Jazz. He would have been of zero help in the postseason.

Speaking of which, Lauri has yet to play in ONE playoff game in his career (two play-in losses in 2022 with the Cavs). Blame the teams all you want, but he hasn't been able to catapult the teams he's played for with his constantly injured carcass.

Counter argument, Lauri wouldn't have gotten an extension last year so he would've only cost 18M (major reason why he wanted to stay in Utah because he'd get paid quicker by getting an extension). Could Lauri have played in those games or were the Jazz tanking. He seems to always be "injured" at the end of the year when they've given up on the season and are trying to blatantly tank.

Lauri would've been the 4th best player on the team, he's not meant to carry the team, that's what Curry and Jimmy are for.


It's moot. We know Ainge would have wanted a king's ransom in draft capital. MDJ was right to say no.
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Post#4068 » by AirP. » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:30 pm

Need to look at what the team has if they move Kuminga. The biggest need would be another defensive wing although Moody looks to be handling that currently. I also wouldn't be surprised if GS keeps Kuminga and extends him this next season if he buys in.

Gs - Curry, Podz, Melton, Seth
G/F - Moody, Hield, Payton II, Richard
F - Butler, Santos
F/C Green, Horford, Post, TJD

Dillion Brooks makes 21.1 and then 19.9 mil the next 2 years.

Is there any way to get Saddiq Bey out of NO? He's making ~6 mil a year for the next 2 years coming off his injury that kept him out last season. Possibly try to get Herb Jones and Bey for Kuminga and some draft assets? Maybe get NO in as a 3rd team in a Kuminga trade to get Bey as part of the package.
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Post#4069 » by JRoy » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:38 pm

Senchu wrote:JK + Hield or Moody for Jrue.
Lets get old!


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Post#4070 » by Twinkie defense » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:52 pm

wco81 wrote:Podcasters are noticing that the Warriors control a lot of FRPs. They'd be willing to trade those for Giannis but there are a lot of teams looking to pounce on a Giannis trade, many of whom have far more assets.

With the 27/28 player option and just given his status as a player, seems like Giannis would have a lot of sway to choose his destination, and that Bucks, while they'll get a big return, won't be able to just send him to the highest bidder.
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Post#4071 » by Twinkie defense » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:55 pm

Larry Ellison wrote:We will be a lottery team after Steph retires.

Lakers are never a lottery team. Don't you think that with the ownership, fans, arena, history, locale, Warriors can be an attractive destination for a star even with Stephen Curry gone? Someone might want to take that mantle?
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4072 » by Larry Ellison » Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:30 pm

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Larry Ellison wrote:We will be a lottery team after Steph retires.

Lakers are never a lottery team. Don't you think that with the ownership, fans, arena, history, locale, Warriors can be an attractive destination for a star even with Stephen Curry gone? Someone might want to take that mantle?

You are right. I still don't want them to trade away valuable draft capital. But yeah, it is an attractive destination, and Lacob is not a guy who would sign off on tanking.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4073 » by marthafokker » Sat Oct 18, 2025 9:26 pm

I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?
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Post#4074 » by whatisacenter » Sat Oct 18, 2025 9:40 pm

marthafokker wrote:I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?


lol, I was ok after 1 ring!

The second was great too!

The third made them a dynasty!

The fourth was the cherry on top!
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4075 » by Onus » Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:00 am

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marthafokker wrote:I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?


lol, I was ok after 1 ring!

The second was great too!

The third made them a dynasty!

The fourth was the cherry on top!

5 with LeBron in the league that’s rapture.

Jordan never had a rival, whereas curry went up against LeBron and he’s going to have more titles than him. That’s goat stuff.

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Post#4076 » by Onus » Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:12 am

marthafokker wrote:I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4077 » by wco81 » Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:48 pm

There's plenty of things to do in SF.

But if you mainly want to hang out at strip clubs, there are better cities for that.

Bay also may be too cold for those giant yachts but are NBA stars buying yachts which cost over $100 million?
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Post#4078 » by EvanZ » Yesterday 12:18 am

I’m still throwing around the idea of a Nic Claxton trade.
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Post#4079 » by donkeylips » Yesterday 1:55 am

I’d be happy with that
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Post#4080 » by vvoland » Yesterday 6:29 pm

Onus wrote:
marthafokker wrote:I will be okay if Dubs win 1 more. Then I don't care if Dubs sucks for the next 10 after that.

Just 1 more ring! After 40 years of sucking before Septh, what is 10 years post Septh?

This whole thing we want to be good 15 years after Steph, is crazy to me. The odds of us getting another top 10 player of all time is so slim and that fact that you’re not going all out to win while you still have a top 10 player of all time while playing at a top 5 player level is just insane.

People think we’ll attract free agents, sf is not the place to be for young millionaires. There’s no places to go. You literally have to fight for women because there are so few and you’re also going against tech money for their attention. We are not going to be a destination in the future.

Dallas has an owner that was treating everyone to five star treatment and they couldn’t attract anyone. Great ownership is not what attracts young nba players.

The bulls have been trash since mj. They had the front office, they have the history, and no one wants to take that mantle.

There is no guarantee that we get another top 10 player of all time in the next 20 years and people are ok with not giving everything for our literal franchise goat and people really think this is going to be a destination? This just gives off vibes of we’re planning for the future at all times so if you come here we’re already thinking about how we can replace you and that’s supposed to be attractive?


Very much agree on the 'never getting another top 10 player" and "going all out." The rest of it is just weird.

SF is a great destination for young people from all over the world. The 'fight for women' bit just sounds like personal frustration. Between the youth in the region, the money/business opps, and the weather, there are few better places to be. Since we lost cohan, we haven't had much trouble attracting FAs. Is that curry, lacob, or other reasons? Not sure. Everyone raves about how 1st class the org is and the only time we had enough money to sign a max guy, KD chose to come here.

Dallas is a terrible town to be rich, young, and black. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the part with their own draft picks, FAs, or trades. Not sure what would attract me to dallas, especially after everyone started pimping out the team plane and practice facility.

The bulls had the FO? What? Following MJ is hard enough but playing for that FO? It's a dumpster fire, why would anyone want to go to chicago? Same POS owner that chased out Jordan and co. I mean, if lacob refuses to pay Steve and Steph has to 'retire' only to come back in 2 years and play for Charlotte, we will certainly have trouble finding FAs in the future. It was self-immolation by the bulls in '98 and everyone knew it.

If I look past the handwringing, all these 'why haven't we gone all in' complaints are about not trading our picks when we had good ones (or our current future picks). I mean, sure... but people seem to be far more confident about what trades were offered and why they broke down than what is actually being reported, often years after the fact.

Could we have moved wigs + JK for Pascal? At one point, I thought we turned it down, then I thought pascal refused to come here, and last thing I heard was that Tor had no interest in JK. Which of those is true? Likely none of them.

This team pays out of the nose, makes hard decisions, and starts out every season trying to win. I would have thought after the cohan years, we'd recognize this when we see it.

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