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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2025-26, p. II 

Post#261 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:29 am

keevsnick1 wrote:There are only two games separating the #2 seed Cavaliers (10-5) from the #11 seed Bucks (8-7) in the East. Just crazy parity in the East right now.

That's just another way of saying that if the Celtics can get a starting center and Tatum returns they could again own the conference.

Exactly!

It doesn't even have to be a starting Center.
Just a Center who can be a complementary piece to Queta.

Rob Williams?

Nick Richards?

Vucevic?
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Post#262 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:43 am

Clippers really in a bad spot right now.

They have no 1st round pick this June, 2026.

Kawhi's injured again.

Perfect example of being in basketball purgatory.

With very few options and also a 1st apron team, I think the best way out is to cash in on Zubac.
Get a pick or picks and a player or two with smaller salaries.
That way the Clips can be respectable and at the same time have a draft pick or two.
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Post#263 » by jmr07019 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:50 am

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keevsnick1 wrote:There are only two games separating the #2 seed Cavaliers (10-5) from the #11 seed Bucks (8-7) in the East. Just crazy parity in the East right now.

That's just another way of saying that if the Celtics can get a starting center and Tatum returns they could again own the conference.

Exactly!

It doesn't even have to be a starting Center.
Just a Center who can be a complementary piece to Queta.

Rob Williams?

Nick Richards?

Vucevic?


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Post#264 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:23 am

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keevsnick1 wrote:There are only two games separating the #2 seed Cavaliers (10-5) from the #11 seed Bucks (8-7) in the East. Just crazy parity in the East right now.

That's just another way of saying that if the Celtics can get a starting center and Tatum returns they could again own the conference.

Exactly!

It doesn't even have to be a starting Center.
Just a Center who can be a complementary piece to Queta.

Rob Williams?

Nick Richards?

Vucevic?


Claxton

Yeah, he's a possibility.
Problem with Claxton is he's thin.
But he's an upgrade over Queta at this point in time.

I think the ideal is Gafford.

So we'll see.
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Post#265 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:28 am

Wow!

Sacramento down by 25 at the half.

That team is worse than the Clips in basketball purgatory, that team is in basketball hell!
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Post#266 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:11 am

I don't understand the Bucks using Cream City on their jerseys.

Every time they lose, people will say they got creamed!

Pied even! :lol:
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Post#267 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:15 am

Would you trade:
Derrick White + Neemias Queta for Zubac + Beal
??

Payton, Sam Hauser + Neemias Queta for Zubac and Beal
??

Fierce1 wrote:Clippers really in a bad spot right now.

They have no 1st round pick this June, 2026.

Kawhi's injured again.

Perfect example of being in basketball purgatory.

With very few options and also a 1st apron team, I think the best way out is to cash in on Zubac.
Get a pick or picks and a player or two with smaller salaries.
That way the Clips can be respectable and at the same time have a draft pick or two.
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Post#268 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:17 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Would you trade:
Derrick White + Neemias Queta for Zubac + Beal
??

Payton, Sam Hauser + Neemias Queta for Zubac and Beal
??

Fierce1 wrote:Clippers really in a bad spot right now.

They have no 1st round pick this June, 2026.

Kawhi's injured again.

Perfect example of being in basketball purgatory.

With very few options and also a 1st apron team, I think the best way out is to cash in on Zubac.
Get a pick or picks and a player or two with smaller salaries.
That way the Clips can be respectable and at the same time have a draft pick or two.

Cs need White, PP, and Queta.

Use Simons and a draft pick or picks to get Zubac.

Clips are going nowhere.

Make it a multi-team trade so that the Clips can get more compensation.
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Post#269 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:19 am

I wouldn't do it either. I doubt LAC will trade Zubac for expiring and a pick. Probably they package a far out draft pick or two with their old players and try to stabilize their situation.

I dont bet on sports but if I did, I would say Stone Cold Lock that Zuubac does NOT get traded... Clips don't have their pick in '26! They need Zu to win games!

Fierce1 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Would you trade:
Derrick White + Neemias Queta for Zubac + Beal
??

Payton, Sam Hauser + Neemias Queta for Zubac and Beal
??

Fierce1 wrote:Clippers really in a bad spot right now.

They have no 1st round pick this June, 2026.

Kawhi's injured again.

Perfect example of being in basketball purgatory.

With very few options and also a 1st apron team, I think the best way out is to cash in on Zubac.
Get a pick or picks and a player or two with smaller salaries.
That way the Clips can be respectable and at the same time have a draft pick or two.

Cs need White, PP, and Queta.

Use Simons and a draft pick or picks to get Zubac.

Clips are going nowhere.

Make it a multi-team trade so that the Clips can get more compensation.
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Post#270 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 3:23 am

Reason why PP is so valuable right now, he's the only real PG on the team.
You have a very reliable ball-handler in PP.

Zubac is good, but he's not a game changer.

Cs just need to supplement the Center position because with the emergence of Mynot and Walsh, the Cs just need a decent Center that you can rely on in the playoffs.

Queta will be fine for the regular season as Queta is continuing to improve.
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Post#271 » by Marvel » Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:37 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I don't understand the Bucks using Cream City on their jerseys.

Every time they lose, people will say they got creamed!

Pied even! :lol:

:rofl: Ridiculous name.
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Post#272 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:04 pm

It seems like Reed Sheppard is living up to his status as last year's former 3rd pick so far this season. Shooting around 50 and 48 pct from 2 and 3. Yet if it wasn't for FVV going down with a season ending injury, do you think Ime would be playing him? No Ime wants veterans who shoot 37 and 32 pct instead (FVV)

When you play young players, with ability, they develop.
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Post#273 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:53 pm

Through 15 games, Detroit and Toronto are 1-2 in the East and OKC and Denver are 1-2 in the West

You look at the shot profile of these teams, especially 3PTAs, and they are not generating wins by outattempting the opponent from the 3pt line.
Detroit attempts 32 3PTA per game, Toronto attempts 32, OKC attempts 39 and Denver attempts 33 3PTAs...

In this era, some have argued the math ball approach: win possessions (turnovers and O-rebounds) and win 3PTAs and you'll math your way to wins ... and it looks like the NBA has solved for that. The top two seeds in each conference, none attempt 40 3PTA per game.
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Post#274 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:31 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Through 15 games, Detroit and Toronto are 1-2 in the East and OKC and Denver are 1-2 in the West

You look at the shot profile of these teams, especially 3PTAs, and they are not generating wins by outattempting the opponent from the 3pt line.
Detroit attempts 32 3PTA per game, Toronto attempts 32, OKC attempts 39 and Denver attempts 33 3PTAs...

In this era, some have argued the math ball approach: win possessions (turnovers and O-rebounds) and win 3PTAs and you'll math your way to wins ... and it looks like the NBA has solved for that. The top two seeds in each conference, none attempt 40 3PTA per game.

3PTAs and math was the thing in 2023, 2024, and 2025.

This season the NBA has gone back to a more traditional game.

Teams now are going big and playing with more physicality.

That's why I'm curious to see if Brad upgrades the roster by bringing in more size.

If Tatum returns and the Centers are still Queta and Garza, the Cs will be better off having a lottery pick.
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Post#275 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:31 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Reason why PP is so valuable right now, he's the only real PG on the team.
You have a very reliable ball-handler in PP.

Zubac is good, but he's not a game changer.

Cs just need to supplement the Center position because with the emergence of Mynot and Walsh, the Cs just need a decent Center that you can rely on in the playoffs.

Queta will be fine for the regular season as Queta is continuing to improve.

I agree on keeping PP, but we have no real PGs. Being short doesn’t make you a PG.
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Post#276 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:34 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Reason why PP is so valuable right now, he's the only real PG on the team.
You have a very reliable ball-handler in PP.

Zubac is good, but he's not a game changer.

Cs just need to supplement the Center position because with the emergence of Mynot and Walsh, the Cs just need a decent Center that you can rely on in the playoffs.

Queta will be fine for the regular season as Queta is continuing to improve.

I agree on keeping PP, but we have no real PGs. Being short doesn’t make you a PG.

That's why I think the Bulls will be a great trade partner because the Bulls have too many PGs.

Simons and Hauser can get us Vucevic and Coby White.

If not Coby White then Tre Jones.
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Post#277 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:38 pm

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redslastlaugh wrote:Through 15 games, Detroit and Toronto are 1-2 in the East and OKC and Denver are 1-2 in the West

You look at the shot profile of these teams, especially 3PTAs, and they are not generating wins by outattempting the opponent from the 3pt line.
Detroit attempts 32 3PTA per game, Toronto attempts 32, OKC attempts 39 and Denver attempts 33 3PTAs...

In this era, some have argued the math ball approach: win possessions (turnovers and O-rebounds) and win 3PTAs and you'll math your way to wins ... and it looks like the NBA has solved for that. The top two seeds in each conference, none attempt 40 3PTA per game.

3PTAs and math was the thing in 2023, 2024, and 2025.

This season the NBA has gone back to a more traditional game.

Teams now are going big and playing with more physicality.

That's why I'm curious to see if Brad upgrades the roster by bringing in more size.

If Tatum returns and the Centers are still Queta and Garza, the Cs will be better off having a lottery pick.

I truly don’t understand why people keep discounting Queta. We got a steal with this guy. Once we get people in here that can pass to him consistently, a real PG (Tatum), he’ll impress even more. He’s always open.

He has consistently been our 2nd best player, just doesn’t score enough for people to care.

He’s been so good on the DL, but he can get even better if the others pay attention to him.

What is Joe doing not telling them to look for him on offense? JB, Queta is always an option! White and Pritch, our acting PGs, utilize Queta more! He can open up more things if we used him better/more.
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Post#278 » by bisme37 » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:48 pm

I haven't watched the Warriors much but I'm already seeing articles about how bad Horford has been and how the Dubs should trade him to Siberia. Still don't get why he felt compelled to move across the country at his ripe old age just to go from one mediocre team to another. If the Celtics still had Al and Tatum comes back and we're immediately the better team.
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Post#279 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:50 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Through 15 games, Detroit and Toronto are 1-2 in the East and OKC and Denver are 1-2 in the West

You look at the shot profile of these teams, especially 3PTAs, and they are not generating wins by outattempting the opponent from the 3pt line.
Detroit attempts 32 3PTA per game, Toronto attempts 32, OKC attempts 39 and Denver attempts 33 3PTAs...

In this era, some have argued the math ball approach: win possessions (turnovers and O-rebounds) and win 3PTAs and you'll math your way to wins ... and it looks like the NBA has solved for that. The top two seeds in each conference, none attempt 40 3PTA per game.

3PTAs and math was the thing in 2023, 2024, and 2025.

This season the NBA has gone back to a more traditional game.

Teams now are going big and playing with more physicality.

That's why I'm curious to see if Brad upgrades the roster by bringing in more size.

If Tatum returns and the Centers are still Queta and Garza, the Cs will be better off having a lottery pick.

I truly don’t understand why people keep discounting Queta. We got a steal with this guy. Once we get people in here that can pass to him consistently, a real PG (Tatum), he’ll impress even more. He’s always open.

He has consistently been our 2nd best player, just doesn’t score enough for people to care.

He’s been so good on the DL, but he can get even better if the others pay attention to him.

What is Joe doing not telling them to look for him on offense? JB, Queta is always an option! White and Pritch, our acting PGs, utilize Queta more! He can open up more things if we used him better/more.

Yeah, Queta can score, rebound, and block shots.
He's even getting better on defense.
It's just those silly mistakes that he needs to minimize.

As for Garza, the drop-off on the defense end is very obvious once Garza enters and Queta leaves.

The Cs need to get Queta some help because should just be the 3rd Center.
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Post#280 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:52 pm

bisme37 wrote:I haven't watched the Warriors much but I'm already seeing articles about how bad Horford has been and how the Dubs should trade him to Siberia. Still don't get why he felt compelled to move across the country at his ripe old age just to go from one mediocre team to another. If the Celtics still had Al and Tatum comes back and we're immediately the better team.

I've seen a few GSW games and Horford is just a 3pt shooter now.

You're not getting any rim protection and rebounding from Horford at this point in his career.

Brad made the right decision to let Al go.

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