MVP Watch 2008... Part 3.

[T-Mac for MVP]

Many people look like garbage when compared to Ben Wallace.

[INKtastic]

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I totally agree with what you're saying. But you look at where the Rockets were just 6 weeks ago, then you factor in they're still doing all this without their franchise center, and I think you have a special case.

You mean they've been doing some of it without Yao. The streak was at 12 games when Yao went out.

[RobertGlory]

maybe i shouldn't have said garbage about peja, but dude was clearly declining and then got injured last year.

west was injured and garbage before cp3

[INKtastic]

Paul may well get the MVP - but he may well also get too much credit for the improvement vs last year. A big problem for the hornets last year as injuries. SOme, but not all, of their improvement can be attributed to being healthy.

[RobertGlory]

Paul may well get the MVP - but he may well also get too much credit for the improvement vs last year. A big problem for the hornets last year as injuries. SOme, but not all, of their improvement can be attributed to being healthy.

but still

he's been one of the best players on one of the best teams

now he gets his first ABC game tomorrow

joe farmer in podunk with no ESPN, no TNT and no league pass finally gets to see cp3 play

and then we still have chicago, houston (23???), and boston($10 tix going for $50+ on stubhub), all at home next week

[NO-KG-AI]

http://www.nba.com/features/cpmvp_080314.html

Great article on why Chris should be MVP.

[G35]

http://www.nba.com/features/cpmvp_080314.html

Great article on why Chris should be MVP.

Bob Licht
Hornets TV play-by-play announcer

Licht

Bob Licht begins his third season on screen as the Hornets TV play-by-play announcer and his 12th season with the team. Prior to beginning his current role, he spent nine seasons as the radio voice of the Hornets.

[NO-KG-AI]

Doesn't make the facts not true.

Does that mean as a laker fan, you should never be able to say Kobe is the MVP?

[sixers_610]

Lebron deserves it. That team would be so bad without him.

If our record was better, I'd give Andre Miller a vote.

[G35]

Doesn't make the facts not true.

Does that mean as a laker fan, you should never be able to say Kobe is the MVP?

It also doesn't make it unbiased.

And facts?

How do you quantify leadership? Can you unequivocally say that Paul's leadership is greater than the other candidates? I say no to that.

Only one point guard in NBA history has won Defensive Player-of-the-Year

[CB4MiamiHeat]

Looking at "steals" and equating it to just gambling is just as bad as those who look at steals and blocks and rank defense that way.

You gotta watch the games and youll see nobody plays the passing lanes better than Paul. I watched them against the Mavs and Suns..he forced Nash and Kidd into so many turnovers. He had them hesitating on passes, remember these are two of the greatest passers ever. He also stays in front of his man pretty well.

I dont think hes DPOY, but hes definitely making a big impact defensively.

[INKtastic]

Right now I'm kind of leaning to McGrady who has been doing it without Yao.......

for all of 9 games, 3 of which were against winning teams.

[Bucs80]

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for all of 9 games, 3 of which were against winning teams.

Dirk was suspended and West was injured. They are kind of getting lucky here.

But it's coming down to Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant.

Lebron is just seriously losing ground because the team around him sucks and their record is suffering.

[G35]

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for all of 9 games, 3 of which were against winning teams.

So the other 12 games don't count in his favor either?

21 games is 21 games.

How is Lebron doing without Z.......

[G35]

Looking at "steals" and equating it to just gambling is just as bad as those who look at steals and blocks and rank defense that way.

You gotta watch the games and youll see nobody plays the passing lanes better than Paul. I watched them against the Mavs and Suns..he forced Nash and Kidd into so many turnovers. He had them hesitating on passes, remember these are two of the greatest passers ever. He also stays in front of his man pretty well.

I dont think hes DPOY, but hes definitely making a big impact defensively.

How do you "play" passing lanes?

Is that a good sound technique where you try ball denial and/or stay in front of your man and not allow penetration?

Or is that anticipating/cheating/shading when you say playing the passing lanes........

[z_from_kc]

Kobe can amke a big statement in his MVP case today, this will be a game everyone will remember vividly at the end of the year.

[INKtastic]

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So the other 12 games don't count in his favor either?

21 games is 21 games.

How is Lebron doing without Z.......

They don't count as "doing it without Yao.......", which is what I was responding to.

As for LeBron, if only Z was the only player out....

[G35]

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They don't count as "doing it without Yao.......", which is what I was responding to.

As for LeBron, if only Z was the only player out....

Yao isn't the only guy missing on the Rockets and the Cavs can't even beat those teams under .500.....

[etopn23]

If the Rockets get through this 5 game stretch undefeated McGrady better be MVP.

[Dirk_diggler_41]

If the Rockets get through this 5 game stretch undefeated McGrady better be MVP.

He better score a point in this Laker game first.

edit: he just did.