Thursday Game Thread 3/20/08

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Post#301 » by andykeikei » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:03 am

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I have no problems with Fish leaving. But this myth that if Fish didn't move teams that his daughter's life would be in jeopardy is just wrong.

What moving did was enable Fish to spend more time with his daughter. Hey, that's great and important but it's not like his daughter wouldn't have got the same medical care if he would have stayed in Utah and played. It's not like his family couldn't have moved to LA or his daughter couldn't have flown to wherever she needed to go to get treatment.

Well he did what the best for his daughter. He has relatives living in LA so they can take good care of her. That alone is worth to move from Utah to LA.
Plus he gave up his big contract and signed a smaller one. I thought Utah fans would be relieved to get rid of the contract, but some of them just bitter that Fisher went to the rival team in the same conference.
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Post#302 » by Ballings7 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:06 am

Exactly, andykeikei

Everybody should just realize that. It shoudn't even have to be "should", but it is, because people are lacking in perspective in the way of care and considertation. Common sense!
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Post#303 » by dockingsched » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:07 am

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I have no problems with Fish leaving. But this myth that if Fish didn't move teams that his daughter's life would be in jeopardy is just wrong.

What moving did was enable Fish to spend more time with his daughter. Hey, that's great and important SHOULD HAVE STOPPED RIGHT HERE but it's not like his daughter wouldn't have got the same medical care if he would have stayed in Utah and played. It's not like his family couldn't have moved to LA or his daughter couldn't have flown to wherever she needed to go to get treatment.


should have stopped right where i noted. wanting to spend more time with a sick child is already reason enough, period.
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Post#304 » by JDawg » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:08 am

Once again,

Fisher left 20% of his CAREER earnings on the table.

this is a man who may not have made 40 mil in his ENTIRE Basketball playing career.

His contract had 22 mil remaining and he got out of it and signed wiht LA for 14mil.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

A guy who MIGHT make 40 mil in his whole career left 8 mil, or 20% of his potential career earnings to go and play for LA why????

It wasn't liek LA was a contender OR that he hadnt won a title before.

When Jazz fans think about it in those terms, they'll realize how UTTERLY STUPID their claims sound!
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Post#305 » by YiYaoYue » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:08 am

Fisher is an emotional guy... he thought he might lose his daughter... any father that goes thru a phase of almost losing someone you love that deeply will spend more time with them afterwards... you appreciate something more when it is almost taken away... makes no sense that he should not be able to go home before/after a home game... go to practice in a different city and fly around all day instead of having his daughter nearby in the same city as the team.
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Post#306 » by dockingsched » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:09 am

people that think fisher should have taken the lakers/jazz rivalry into account when making his decision are delusional.
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Post#307 » by 00000000000 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:12 am

I was at the game, just got back. I dont care what you guys say, during the starting lineups, they DID NOT BOO him, some select few did ya, but it was overwhelming appluase. easily. no question about it. now during the game might be a different story, but guess what, when the game starts, its a game and he is on the other team. boo him then sure, but i know the majority of the people applauded him before hand.
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Post#308 » by raphleek » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:14 am

Considering Utah has a good hospital and Fisher almost immediately signed with the Lakers and his daughter doesn't need treatment anymore... and reaction from Larry Miller after Fish signed with LA...
Fans have their reason, and if they want to let them have it.
Does it say about class? Not really.
Now trowing stuff on the floor is classless. I hope some will notice the difference.
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Post#309 » by Scrub Sura » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:15 am

I'm late to the party, so I apologize if it has already been stated..

Stay classy, Utah
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Post#310 » by raphleek » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:15 am

dcash4 wrote:people that think fisher should have taken the lakers/jazz rivalry into account when making his decision are delusional.


Dont make stuff up. No sane person is saying this.
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Post#311 » by raphleek » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:17 am

LA kicked our butts, I hope we won't see them in playoffs.
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Post#312 » by Nate505 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:17 am

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should have stopped right where i noted. wanting to spend more time with a sick child is already reason enough, period.

Do you have a point? Have you just missed where I said I had no problems whatsoever with Fish's actions and said that it benefited the Jazz as well?

Frankly, I wouldn't care if he left for any reason. The fact that Jazz got his contracts off the books was great in my mind. The reason I wrote all that was to dispell the myth that his child was in grave danger if he would have stayed in Utah. That's just not true.
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Post#313 » by MagicNolesFSU » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:18 am

ace8 wrote:I was at the game, just got back. I dont care what you guys say, during the starting lineups, they DID NOT BOO him, some select few did ya, but it was overwhelming appluase. easily. no question about it. now during the game might be a different story, but guess what, when the game starts, its a game and he is on the other team. boo him then sure, but i know the majority of the people applauded him before hand.


He was booed last time he was in utah. Thats why kobe called out the fans. Lets comment on things in which you know what your talking about please
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Post#314 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:25 am

Anyone hear that kobe chant in utah once the game was in the last minute??
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Post#315 » by 00000000000 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:27 am

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He was booed last time he was in utah. Thats why kobe called out the fans. Lets comment on things in which you know what your talking about please


ya. well they applauded him this time bro. some boo'd him last time, some applauded him this time. which means people in utah see it from *gasp* both points of view. we are not all classless, thinking he left for selfish reasons. there are a good majority of people(like the ones who applauded him tonight) that have respect for him. i guess that kinda flew over your head though ya? its cool.
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Post#316 » by Scrub Sura » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:33 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:You would be stupid to say all Jazz fans are classless, but the ones who booed Derek Fisher, were pretty classless that night.

I'd be a bit angry I guess, but that was a bit much.


Personally, I thought that was worse than Philly-fan and that's REALLY saying something.

Granted, the whole Michael Irvin thing, but I'm not sure they would've gone there with the situation Fisher has.

I really didn't see much of the game, but from what I saw and read, Kobe was obviously peeved from before and frankly, I agree with him.
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Post#317 » by 00000000000 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:49 am

oh, and also, there was a laker fan (laker shirt, was holding a sign that said "kobe for mvp," on one side and "the jazz suck" on the other) sitting front row. front row!!!! and he threw something on to the court and he got kicked out right after. now im gonna go ahead and generalize, like most do on these boards, and assume that all laker fans throw stuff now. i mean hell, people boo fisher, and suddenly everyone in utah is classless.

yup, those laker fans....always throwing stuff on the court. :noway:
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Post#318 » by eatyourchildren » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:53 am

I mean honestly, the guy's kid has retinal cancer. Who are fans to be to judge Fisher for wanting to be in the city with one of the best medical centers in the world? Is that so wrong of the man? He made the best decision for his family and for himself. LA has a top notch medical facilities (like UCLA medical center) and it was in a team and city that he was familiar with. He didn't say anything bad about the team upon leaving, and thanked the team for letting him go ahead with the location change. Why is there even an OUNCE of hostility towards the man? Did he not do enough for the team? I mean, he helped the Jazz in a big playoff series.

What makes this hilarious is that Jazz fans will be so righteous as to defend Boozer's decision to defect from Cleveland.

Can we have some consistency here?
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Post#319 » by LLcoleJ » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:56 am

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Do you have a point? Have you just missed where I said I had no problems whatsoever with Fish's actions and said that it benefited the Jazz as well?

Frankly, I wouldn't care if he left for any reason. The fact that Jazz got his contracts off the books was great in my mind. The reason I wrote all that was to dispell the myth that his child was in grave danger if he would have stayed in Utah. That's just not true.



and who is spreading this myth? Because it was never about grave danger, it was about peace of mind.
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Post#320 » by Nate505 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:58 am

Phil_2.0 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




and who is spreading this myth? Because it was never about grave danger, it was about peace of mind.


This is the comment I responded to:

Anyone who values basketball more than his own daughter's life is an idiot.

I'm glad Fish has his piece of mind. Good for him.

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