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Post#141 » by bruno sundov » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:59 pm

John from Hemet wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Your are ignorant in the facts of the case but I wont get into them this is about basketball.

Should we make it to the finals please feel free to bring this up to Kobe at the game....I would love to see him break that 80 point record in a game.



You laker fans are all so angry. Let's see how the playoffs turnout!!! I will leave it at that, instead of name calling and being overly defensive.
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Post#142 » by PeTBuLL » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:59 am

Nene is doubtful for game one...

He is like the oposite of wolverine, he never heal from nothing!
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Post#143 » by Lake Dynasty » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:22 am

Good luck for the game guys. I cant wait for the game after watching some great matches today

AI and Kobe should have big games
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Post#144 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:32 am

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Next time you decide to post here try not to sound like a complete ****, you don't have to insult somebody to prove your point.


GTFOH, he came with the insults and I fired back.

His post:
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Post#145 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:51 am

YOU ARE 7 GAMES ABOVE THE NUGGETS! 7!! How is that considered "so far above" them? The Lakers team is "so far above" the Sonics...they are "so far above" the Timberwolves..they are not "so far above" the Nuggets as you would like to beleive. Sorry. The Nuggets lost because Karl did stupid things? No sh*t! Tell us all something we don't know.


Yes, the Lakers are FAR better than the Nuggets. It's really not even close as you've seen but the fact that you've been demolished in 3 games now. The gap between the Lakers and Nuggets in a head to head matchup is about the same as Nuggets vs Kings.

The Nuggs will win one game at most in this series.

This comment has already been addressed by other posters... but if you are a Laker fan like you claim, you should know better then anyone else that the regular season doesn't necessarily account for the post season. I beleive there was a season (in the Shaq era) where the Spurs swept the series during the regular season...and what did the Lakers do? They came back and swept the Spurs in the post season series. That is just a prime example of how you always shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.


That was different in that the Shaq-led Lakers were a completely different team in the playoffs than in the regular season. In Shaq's eight year here we only finished first in the West once yet we made the finals 4 times. Clearly that was different.

As you can see by the first game, this series is going to play out pretty much the same way the regular season series did. You guys have the same problems with us now that you had then and vise-versa. Your flaws haven't changed at all since January. It's just a Denver fan's pipe dream to think any different at this point.

Also, the Nuggets didn't need AI to drop 48 pts in 3 quarters...he was having one of those nights and they were going to him untill the 4th quarter where Karl made one of his genious Coaching decisions to go away from the hot hand and have Iverson pass the ball...it cost the Nuggets the game. You said yourself that the majority of the mistakes made against the Lakers fell on Coaching, Karl makes the proper adjustments and I see this series being far more interresting then what you are trying to make it out to be.


Karl went away from Iverson because we changed the way we were defending him. Kobe and Ariza vs Fisher and Farmar.

Again, what's going to make it more interesting now then it was in the regular season? You guys keep trying to call me out but are providing basically no real analysis of why this series is going to be any different. The only thing that's even come up in this thread is the possiblity of Nene but even that's a pipe dream (at best) and the idea that he's going to lock down Gasol is ridiculous because his points aren't coming in one-on-one situations.

also find it funny that any Laker fan would talk about any player scoring 40 pts or more and the team losing....how many of those types of games has Kobe had? Exactly. GTFOH. Like I said before concentrate on your own team getting out the first round (in which they haven't done since Shaq left) before you come on other forums talking about a bunch on nonsense.


The irony of a Nuggets fan blasting a Laker fan for not making it out of the first round in years :crazy:
I bet we make it out of the first round this year LOL!

You guys haven't made it out of the first round in the last 14 years! Oops, make that 15 years. :rofl:
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Post#146 » by Ballin02 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:13 am

Yes, the Lakers are FAR better than the Nuggets. It's really not even close as you've seen but the fact that you've been demolished in 3 games now. The gap between the Lakers and Nuggets in a head to head matchup is about the same as Nuggets vs Kings.The Nuggs will win one game at most in this series.


No the Lakers are not, the Nuggets beat themselves today plain and simple and I actually feel comfortable saying that. Watching that game today there wasn't one time where I felt like with minor adjustments and if there weren't the mistakes made on our part that we wouldn't be in the game, even when the Lakers were up in the scoring. I never felt once that the Nuggets couldn't have won that game. And thats why your team to me is a good team..but thats about it. Head to toe, both teams have the same amount of talent the only differense is the Coach and the ability to mold that talent correctly.

That was different in that the Shaq-led Lakers were a completely different team in the playoffs than in the regular season. In Shaq's eight year here we only finished first in the West once yet we made the finals 4 times. Clearly that was different.As you can see by the first game, this series is going to play out pretty much the same way the regular season series did. You guys have the same problems with us now that you had then and vise-versa. Your flaws haven't changed at all since January. It's just a Denver fan's pipe dream to think any different at this point.


Yes we do have the same flaws...our Coach, and as long as we have him they will exists. Your team still has a few flaws themselves they need to fix so worry about those before worring about the Nuggets. And you're getting a little too far ahead of yourself talking about the series. Relax and let things play out.


Karl went away from Iverson because we changed the way we were defending him. Kobe and Ariza vs Fisher and Farmar.Again, what's going to make it more interesting now then it was in the regular season? You guys keep trying to call me out but are providing basically no real analysis of why this series is going to be any different. The only thing that's even come up in this thread is the possiblity of Nene but even that's a pipe dream (at best) and the idea that he's going to lock down Gasol is ridiculous because his points aren't coming in one-on-one situations.


Karl went away from Iverson because he's (Please Use More Appropriate Word). And you Laker fans kill me when it comes to Kobe, Kobe got in foul trouble all that night gaurding Iverson (as he did again today) the only one that did a half way decent job on Iverson that night (when they weren't doubling and triple teaming him) was Ariza. So quit trying to give Kobe the credit for that.

Also, i've watched Nene lock down Shaq and Duncan, WTF wouldn't he be able to lock down Gasol. Who the hell do you people think that guy is? :rofl: Some of you people are so cocky, really thinking you are going to make it to the NBA finals this year. If the Nuggets don't take you out...the Jazz will, your team is not as dominate as you try to make it, i'm sorry. Also, I read the LAkers forum and didn't your moderators warn you fans about trolling? Now GTFOH.
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Post#147 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:36 am

Also, i've watched Nene lock down Shaq and Duncan, WTF wouldn't he be able to lock down Gasol. Who the hell do you people think that guy is? Some of you people are so cocky,


Pay attention.
http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=106

About a dozen of the 14 baskets that Gasol made are in that highlight. they're all the result of cutting to the hoop while other players are drawing the defense. Duncan and Shaq don't do that nearly as much. They isolate far more often. They back you down and score. That's what Nene and his bulk are good at stopping. Not what Gasol does for our team. That's why Camby couldn't stop him either (and Camby is a better defender than Nene).

Karl went away from Iverson because he's (Please Use More Appropriate Word). And you Laker fans kill me when it comes to Kobe, Kobe got in foul trouble all that night gaurding Iverson (as he did again today) the only one that did a half way decent job on Iverson that night (when they weren't doubling and triple teaming him) was Ariza. So quit trying to give Kobe the credit for that.


Kobe defended him very well. He got into foul trouble mainly for an offensive foul. Defensively, he had the foul situation under control and was locking Iverson down as usual.

No the Lakers are not, the Nuggets beat themselves today plain and simple and I actually feel comfortable saying that. Watching that game today there wasn't one time where I felt like with minor adjustments and if there weren't the mistakes made on our part that we wouldn't be in the game, even when the Lakers were up in the scoring.


Again, I haven't seen the first three quarters yet but in the fourth there were a lot of mistakes made by the Lakers too. It's not like you guys were getting our best and still hanging in their with your mistakes. We played a below average game (in the part of it I've seen) and you guys just played worse. And your one of your star players tried to act like a bad ass at the worst possible time and got ejected... again.

I never felt once that the Nuggets couldn't have won that game. And thats why your team to me is a good team..but thats about it. Head to toe, both teams have the same amount of talent the only differense is the Coach and the ability to mold that talent correctly.


We play down to our opponents often. you guys are an example of that. Our defense is far superior but we let you guys score because (IMO) the coaching staff knows we can still create separation against the Nugs. But don't mistake how we play against the Nuggs for how we play against everyone. Don't forget, at the end of the season we had the best conference record, division record, and road record out of all the teams in the West. We also won the season series or tie breaker against every team but Houston. So we beat Dallas, Phoenix, New Orleans, San Antonio, and Utah. We'd take all of 'em except Phoenix (maybe SAS).

Some of you people are so cocky, really thinking you are going to make it to the NBA finals this year. If the Nuggets don't take you out...the Jazz will, your team is not as dominate as you try to make it, i'm sorry.



Does that make you feel better about your Nuggets getting destroyed?

We're going to kick the crap out of Jazz too. Not anywhere as bad as we're going to whoop the Nuggets (because the Jazz actually have a good coach) but we'll still beat them. We're just a horrible matchup for them. Don't forget we took the season series 3-1 and beat them down without Bynum or Gasol.
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Post#148 » by Ballin02 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:00 am

Pay attention.
http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=106

About a dozen of the 14 baskets that Gasol made are in that highlight. they're all the result of cutting to the hoop while other players are drawing the defense. Duncan and Shaq don't do that nearly as much. They isolate far more often. They back you down and score. That's what Nene and his bulk are good at stopping. Not what Gasol does for our team. That's why Camby couldn't stop him either (and Camby is a better defender than Nene).


The reason why Camby seemed to be getting abused by Gasol is a result of Camby basically having to gaurd both him and Odum by himself (go read the game thread) this has already been discussed. Putting Nene out there would take relief off of Camby and clog up the lane, which would be a hell of a lot better then having Camby gaurding both basically by himself. Also, Camby is a good shot blocker, but his man to man defense in the center can use some help at times. So yes, he is considered a defensive player, but he is not hands down better then Nene.



Kobe defended him very well. He got into foul trouble mainly for an offensive foul. Defensively, he had the foul situation under control and was locking Iverson down as usual.


What game were you watching? :rofl: And since when has Kobe "locked Iverson down as usual"? Have you even watched these two together during their careers? Kobe is a good defender but he has always had problems and got into foul trouble gaurding Iverson (even people on the Lakers forum will tell you that). Tonight was no different, defensive fouls galore. And during that 51 pt game Iverson had the Lakers were throwing any and everyone possible on Iverson and no one was slowing him down single handedly. Phil Jackson said so himself...I think he would know better then you. Get over that already.


Again, I haven't seen the first three quarters yet but in the fourth there were a lot of mistakes made by the Lakers too. It's not like you guys were getting our best and still hanging in their with your mistakes. We played a below average game (in the part of it I've seen) and you guys just played worse. And your one of your star players tried to act like a bad ass at the worst possible time and got ejected... again.


The Nuggets made far more mistakes then the Lakers and played well below what they are capible of playing so get out of here with that nonsense. Hell, if the Nuggets don't miss 100 free throws its a different situation. And LOL @ any of you Laker fans talking about someone "acting like a bad ass" when Kobe had the nerve to talk crazy to Kenyon after finally making a basket and had an And-1 when Kenyon basically held Kobe to 1-10 in the first quarter and played defense on him well all game...but Kobe is going to wait at the end of the game when he finally gets an And-1 to talk crazy? Get out of here. And what the heck does Iverson getting ejected have to do with your argument anyway? :rofl:


We play down to our opponents often. you guys are an example of that. Our defense is far superior but we let you guys score because (IMO) the coaching staff knows we can still create separation against the Nugs. But don't mistake how we play against the Nuggs for how we play against everyone. Don't forget, at the end of the season we had the best conference record, division record, and road record out of all the teams in the West. We also won the season series or tie breaker against every team but Houston. So we beat Dallas, Phoenix, New Orleans, San Antonio, and Utah. We'd take all of 'em except Phoenix (maybe SAS).


You play down to your competition? The Nuggets have been accused of that all season...join the club. Your defense is "far superior"...bwahahahahaha. You lost all credibility right there. You sound crazy saying that. And the regular season really doesn't mean anything in the playoffs, teams don't care about who you beat. Also, quit acting as if the Lakers are so many games above everyone else. The Lakers are only 7 games above the Nuggets and barely got the #1 seed, seriously STFU already.


Does that make you feel better about your Nuggets getting destroyed?
We're going to kick the crap out of Jazz too. Not anywhere as bad as we're going to whoop the Nuggets (because the Jazz actually have a good coach) but we'll still beat them. We're just a horrible matchup for them. Don't forget we took the season series 3-1 and beat them down without Bynum or Gasol.


You keep beleiving all that you just said. If you make it out the first round, that Lakers team is not getting passed Utah even with Bynum. Plus Bynum coming back after being out the majority of the season really won't be a big impact anyhow. I don't know why the Laker fans think they are going to the Finals this year...just to get their @sses whooped by the Pistons or Celtics. :noway: I'm finished with this conversation because you sound like a lunatic the way you talk. The Lakers are a good team, i'm not saying they aren't...but not as good or elite as you keep trying to make them and unfortounatly you are going to find out sooner rather then later. Good luck with that.
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Post#149 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:54 pm

What game were you watching? And since when has Kobe "locked Iverson down as usual"? Have you even watched these two together during their careers? Kobe is a good defender but he has always had problems and got into foul trouble gaurding Iverson (even people on the Lakers forum will tell you that).


I'm watching the game right now. Kobe was playing awesome D on Iverson including some very nice ball denial and blocking his jumpshot. Then he picked up an OFFENSIVE FOUL and Phil took him off AI. Kobe's locked down AI so many times in the past (especially during the Larry Brown years).

Feel free to point out where AI got Kobe in foul trouble when they were matched up (they were only matched up early on AFAICT but I'm in the middle of the second quarter).



And during that 51 pt game Iverson had the Lakers were throwing any and everyone possible on Iverson and no one was slowing him down single handedly. Phil Jackson said so himself...I think he would know better then you. Get over that already.


Yeah, he said they put Kobe on him in the second to stop Iverson and he did. No one in the NBA stops anyone else singlehandedly espcially not AI. Team D gets a lot of credit but it's only possible in that situation when a good defender is limiting Iverson's options at the point of attack.

The Nuggets made far more mistakes then the Lakers and played well below what they are capible of playing so get out of here with that nonsense. Hell, if the Nuggets don't miss 100 free throws its a different situation.


4 straight games! Double digit wins in 3 of them. Stop trying to act like you guys just messed this one up. The Lakers are better than the Nuggets, A LOT BETTER.

And LOL @ any of you Laker fans talking about someone "acting like a bad ass" when Kobe had the nerve to talk crazy to Kenyon after finally making a basket and had an And-1 when Kenyon basically held Kobe to 1-10 in the first quarter and played defense on him well all game...but Kobe is going to wait at the end of the game when he finally gets an And-1 to talk crazy?


LOL. Watch the game, Kmart wasn't "holding" anyone to anything. At best he was creating a massive gap in their interior defense that our guys just walked through all game. Kobe missed a couple shots he normally makes easily and that's the difference between 9-26 and 12-26. Martin played well but not shut down D at all. At least no more than Farmar and Fisher did on Iverson (which is to say that they didn't, AI just shot relatively poorly).

You play down to your competition? The Nuggets have been accused of that all season...join the club. Your defense is "far superior"...bwahahahahaha. You lost all credibility right there. You sound crazy saying that. And the regular season really doesn't mean anything in the playoffs, teams don't care about who you beat. Also, quit acting as if the Lakers are so many games above everyone else. The Lakers are only 7 games above the Nuggets and barely got the #1 seed, seriously STFU already.


THE NUGGETS BARELY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. So it's ridiculous to talk about us barely getting the #1 seed as some kind of put down. With the lineup that we're playing with now we are 29-5. Regardless of how many games the Lakers are up, we're a far better team NOW than the Nugs are NOW.... and therefore we're going to destroy the Nuggs as we've done consistently this season.

You can hang on to that "7 games" all you want but the Nuggs have gotten their azz kicked AGAIN by the Lakers. It's not some fluke. Either sweep or 4-1 at best. Deal with it.

And yes, our defense is far superior. We don't have to move our PF's out to guard the perimeter because of a defensive hole at the 1, 2, and 3. How sad is that. 3/5ths of the Nuggs D is a defensive liability from the jump. Yes, your defense sucks and you can't turn it on EVER against ANYONE.

You guys would have been better off in the lottery picking an athletic perimeter defender. GS would have made the series more interesting.

And what the heck does Iverson getting ejected have to do with your argument anyway?


To say you guys have the same flaws as ever. Your star players keep flaking out on our role players and getting booted. You really expect to win games against us like that?
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Post#150 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:55 pm

If you make it out the first round, that Lakers team is not getting passed Utah even with Bynum.


Yep.. because we clearly need Bynum to guard Okur :crazy: Stop hatin'.
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Post#151 » by Bgil » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:00 pm

The reason why Camby seemed to be getting abused by Gasol is a result of Camby basically having to gaurd both him and Odum by himself (go read the game thread) this has already been discussed. Putting Nene out there would take relief off of Camby and clog up the lane, which would be a hell of a lot better then having Camby gaurding both basically by himself. Also, Camby is a good shot blocker, but his man to man defense in the center can use some help at times. So yes, he is considered a defensive player, but he is not hands down better then Nene.


The problem wasn't his man defense but the ridiculous idea of pulling your PF out to the perimeter and replacing him with Iverson. Is Cmby going to guard Luke too. Don't forget he abused you guys too. Everytime Camby goes to help he's just going to leave Gasol or Odom open under the hoop... which was the problem last game.

He spent all game running to help on all the mismatches. No one was exploiting his man-defense. Hell, we didn't need to with all the slow ass rotations the Nuggets were making.

you guys seriously need some better anaylitical minds watching the game if you think Camby's man defense was the problem and Nene would have fixed everything.
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Post#152 » by thegreatest » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:43 pm

Bgil wrote:
If you make it out the first round, that Lakers team is not getting passed Utah even with Bynum.


Yep.. because we clearly need Bynum to guard Okur :crazy: Stop hatin'.

Not to mention the Lakers beat Utah without Pau, in Utah.
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Post#153 » by noone » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:05 pm

He spent all game running to help on all the mismatches. No one was exploiting his man-defense. Hell, we didn't need to with all the slow ass rotations the Nuggets were making.

you guys seriously need some better anaylitical minds watching the game if you think Camby's man defense was the problem and Nene would have fixed everything.


And this is what happens when you think you can analyze a whole team after watching one game. Sure it may seem that Camby was doing all the right things, but that's if you don't watch the Nuggets on a regular basis. I don't remember the last time Camby made a rotation 1) out to a perimeter player (how many foul line extended jumpers did Gasol hit when Camby was on him...hell just give me a half-assed effort and I'll be happy), or 2) to a player driving before it was too late. Instead of making timely rotations (which Nene is great at, and that's an understatement...plus the fact that he clogs the lane only helps), Camby waits for the penetrator to get close enough to where he can attempt a block. If he would make timely rotations instead of trying to set himself up for the block, and his teammates didn't get his man (after said timely rotation), then it would be his teammates' fault. But when Camby is always late rotating himself, how is his teammate going to even have a chance to rotate in time? Camby's fault. I mentioned this yesterday also, but Camby is horrible against good passing teams for this reason especially.

Thanks for your great analytical mind though. We had been missing that on this board until you came.
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Post#154 » by Ballin02 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:11 am

I'm watching the game right now. Kobe was playing awesome D on Iverson including some very nice ball denial and blocking his jumpshot. Then he picked up an OFFENSIVE FOUL and Phil took him off AI. Kobe's locked down AI so many times in the past (especially during the Larry Brown years).Feel free to point out where AI got Kobe in foul trouble when they were matched up (they were only matched up early on AFAICT but I'm in the middle of the second quarter).


Wait, weren't you the same person that admitted you didn't even watch the game until towards the end? So how would you know Kobe played "awsome D"? Iverson got almost any shot he wanted and shot 50% from the field...thats not exactly playing "awsome D". Also, you said Kobe will shut down Iverson "as usual"...that is implying that he has always shut down Iverson, which is why I asked you how long have you been watching those two play against eachother. You said Kobe has always locked down AI, especially in the Larry Brown years? :rofl: :noway: You are starting to lose credibility (as if you already hadn't lost enough) i'll just leave it at that. And it is not a secret Iverson gets Kobe in foul trouble, I don't know what world you live in where he doesn't.


Yeah, he said they put Kobe on him in the second to stop Iverson and he did. No one in the NBA stops anyone else singlehandedly espcially not AI. Team D gets a lot of credit but it's only possible in that situation when a good defender is limiting Iverson's options at the point of attack.


No, Phil Jackson did not say that, he said that during the first two quartes he was switching people on and off Iverson (including Kobe) and after the half he started the double/triple teams and that Ariza got the credit for helping out the most on Iverson. You are just making up stuff. Iverson was told to pass the ball in the 4th and didn't nearly shoot the ball as much as he did in the first three quarters, so give it up already.


4 straight games! Double digit wins in 3 of them. Stop trying to act like you guys just messed this one up. The Lakers are better than the Nuggets, A LOT BETTER.


Yeah...4 strait games! The majority of the loses came from Coaching, a laker fan even came on a Nuggets forum and asked WTF was Karl doing.


LOL. Watch the game, Kmart wasn't "holding" anyone to anything. At best he was creating a massive gap in their interior defense that our guys just walked through all game. Kobe missed a couple shots he normally makes easily and that's the difference between 9-26 and 12-26. Martin played well but not shut down D at all. At least no more than Farmar and Fisher did on Iverson (which is to say that they didn't, AI just shot relatively poorly).


How about YOU watch the game again, because you already said you didn't catch half of it (which is why i'm still trying to figure out why you are up in here arguing). Funny how you say K-Mart didn't play shut down D (when Kobe was 1 of four in the first half)...yet you give credit to Kobe for supposidly "shutting down Iverson at all times" when Iverson has basically averaged 30 or more against him his entire career. Go figure. :noway:


THE NUGGETS BARELY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. So it's ridiculous to talk about us barely getting the #1 seed as some kind of put down. With the lineup that we're playing with now we are 29-5. Regardless of how many games the Lakers are up, we're a far better team NOW than the Nugs are NOW.... and therefore we're going to destroy the Nuggs as we've done consistently this season.You can hang on to that "7 games" all you want but the Nuggs have gotten their azz kicked AGAIN by the Lakers. It's not some fluke. Either sweep or 4-1 at best. Deal with it. And yes, our defense is far superior. We don't have to move our PF's out to guard the perimeter because of a defensive hole at the 1, 2, and 3. How sad is that. 3/5ths of the Nuggs D is a defensive liability from the jump. Yes, your defense sucks and you can't turn it on EVER against ANYONE
You guys would have been better off in the lottery picking an athletic perimeter defender. GS would have made the series more interesting


Do you feel better now with all this? Honastly? If the Lakers are going to sweep the Nuggets then let them do it! Because right now all you are doing is talking. You can talk all you want but they still have to go out and do it. And you should never put the the words "Lakers defense" and "superior" in the same sentense. Please just stop it already. And i'm bringing up the fact that you barely made the #1 pick because you are coming in this forum acting as if the Lakers are so far above every team in the West, and that is far from the truth, wether you like it or not. And now the Nuggets would have been better off just missing the playoffs and getting a lottery pick? Seriously, GTFOH. And how in the heck would GS made the series more interresting when there defense is worse then ours (considering that is all you are talking about is defense)? And all Fisher would have done is flopped and the Lakers would have stole another game from GS anyhow.

To say you guys have the same flaws as ever. Your star players keep flaking out on our role players and getting booted. You really expect to win games against us like that?


Honastly you Lakers are hypocrites and really shouldn't be talking about anyone elses star players before you look at you own star...the biggest cry baby in the entire league. Now continue going on and on about how the Lakers are so much more superior then everyone else....blah blah blah. I'm sure you'll be back :rofl:
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Post#155 » by Ballin02 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:13 am

Bgil wrote:
If you make it out the first round, that Lakers team is not getting passed Utah even with Bynum.


Yep.. because we clearly need Bynum to guard Okur :crazy: Stop hatin'.


Did you just say "stop hatin"? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I think you might want to save those :crazy: faces for yourself, you need them.
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Post#156 » by Ballin02 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:15 am

thegreatest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Not to mention the Lakers beat Utah without Pau, in Utah.


So because you beat them once in Utah without Gasol (as if Gasol is Lebron James or something) you think it will be easy to beat them in a 7 game series? :rofl:
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Post#157 » by Ballin02 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:28 am

you guys seriously need some better anaylitical minds watching the game if you think Camby's man defense was the problem and Nene would have fixed everything.


"Noone" already answered you on this comment....but you might want to consider watching the games completely before you comment, because it makes you look ridiculous. Out of all the things you have typed, you've made a few good points and the majority of the rest has been a bunch of nonsense. Good luck to you and your "superior" Lakers team.
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Post#158 » by Ballin02 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:05 am

I'm watching the game right now. Kobe was playing awesome D on Iverson including some very nice ball denial and blocking his jumpshot.


Klieza blocked one of Kobes jumpshots...I guess that means he was playing "lockdown defense" as well too? (well according to your standards) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#159 » by sportsmikegm23 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:04 am

Bgil wrote:
YOU ARE 7 GAMES ABOVE THE NUGGETS! 7!! How is that considered "so far above" them? The Lakers team is "so far above" the Sonics...they are "so far above" the Timberwolves..they are not "so far above" the Nuggets as you would like to beleive. Sorry. The Nuggets lost because Karl did stupid things? No sh*t! Tell us all something we don't know.


Yes, the Lakers are FAR better than the Nuggets. It's really not even close as you've seen but the fact that you've been demolished in 3 games now. The gap between the Lakers and Nuggets in a head to head matchup is about the same as Nuggets vs Kings.

The Nuggs will win one game at most in this series.

This comment has already been addressed by other posters... but if you are a Laker fan like you claim, you should know better then anyone else that the regular season doesn't necessarily account for the post season. I beleive there was a season (in the Shaq era) where the Spurs swept the series during the regular season...and what did the Lakers do? They came back and swept the Spurs in the post season series. That is just a prime example of how you always shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.


That was different in that the Shaq-led Lakers were a completely different team in the playoffs than in the regular season. In Shaq's eight year here we only finished first in the West once yet we made the finals 4 times. Clearly that was different.

As you can see by the first game, this series is going to play out pretty much the same way the regular season series did. You guys have the same problems with us now that you had then and vise-versa. Your flaws haven't changed at all since January. It's just a Denver fan's pipe dream to think any different at this point.

Also, the Nuggets didn't need AI to drop 48 pts in 3 quarters...he was having one of those nights and they were going to him untill the 4th quarter where Karl made one of his genious Coaching decisions to go away from the hot hand and have Iverson pass the ball...it cost the Nuggets the game. You said yourself that the majority of the mistakes made against the Lakers fell on Coaching, Karl makes the proper adjustments and I see this series being far more interresting then what you are trying to make it out to be.


Karl went away from Iverson because we changed the way we were defending him. Kobe and Ariza vs Fisher and Farmar.

Again, what's going to make it more interesting now then it was in the regular season? You guys keep trying to call me out but are providing basically no real analysis of why this series is going to be any different. The only thing that's even come up in this thread is the possiblity of Nene but even that's a pipe dream (at best) and the idea that he's going to lock down Gasol is ridiculous because his points aren't coming in one-on-one situations.

also find it funny that any Laker fan would talk about any player scoring 40 pts or more and the team losing....how many of those types of games has Kobe had? Exactly. GTFOH. Like I said before concentrate on your own team getting out the first round (in which they haven't done since Shaq left) before you come on other forums talking about a bunch on nonsense.


The irony of a Nuggets fan blasting a Laker fan for not making it out of the first round in years :crazy:
I bet we make it out of the first round this year LOL!

You guys haven't made it out of the first round in the last 14 years! Oops, make that 15 years. :rofl:


Blah Blah Blah.... Nothing matter except this year....who cares what you did last year or 10 years ago... Laker fans can go down glory road...that's fine you have a great tradition of excellence. I just don't see why you wanna come in here and bash the Nuggets? Nothing better to do? Have no life? Makes you feel superior?

You all are the favorites...you have Kobe and Gasol...so if you beat us in 5...that's what you are suppose to do. If you don't beat us in 4 or 5...the experts are going to stay your defense sucks nearly as bad as the Nuggets...and you won't get pass X team without knuckling down defensively. Far superior defensive? Yeah... we score 58 on your team at halftime and if they would have kept in the same players...we would have led at half.

This can be a competitive series...it's not like we are without talent...but of course I will agree with you that we don't play team ball especially as consistently as you do... but we can and have done before.

Do I think the Nuggets will win the series...no... but as a fan should I just stop rooting for them and say they suck... Hell no...

I hope you aren't just a front running fan since the Lakers are good now...I bet you were one ripping Kobe at the beginning of the year and not you are Kissing Kobe's Arse....but it's quite obvious you are. Most true Laker fans are much classier and respectful. You can have a great conversation about game with many Laker fans...they know the game... you just wanna spew hate.

At least most Nugget fans will admit our team has flaws... Kobe lost to the Bobcats and Grizzlies at home... Kobe with 4 dwarfs should have whooped those teams at home... I guess that was an off night... I didn't think the Lakers had those?

so feel free to come in a rip us because you have a team that is expected to beat us in 5 games...and tell us how great you are... tell us something the national media and even the home media and most everyone that mentions this series thinks... it's really revolutionary stuff... maybe you can get a column for the LA Times called Bgil the repeater!!! If you guys lose 2 games in this series...the world might come to an end...

With your storied tradition and all your championships you wanna pile on some Nugget fans with enthusiasm for our team on our board?? Take your garbage and keep it in LA.
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Post#160 » by John from Hemet » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:54 pm

Some of the arguements that you my fellow laker fans are putting over onto this board are not only not necessary but actually are making you look foolish which is embarrising.

For instance....somebody posted about the fact that the nuggets barely made the playoffs.....do you know that the playoff teams all won 50 plus games and were separated by a matter of 8 games top to bottom (or something to that effect)

In any other year the nuggest record would have gotten them a much better seed.....if they were in the east they DEF would have had a better seed.

We are not going to sweep the nuggets......they have too much individual talent for that to happen. I think we win but this is going to be a dog fight.

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