The Official Trade Proposals Thread

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

i see your point. My reasoning is it lowers your 2011 committed salaries by 5.1 million. Factor in Conleys extension and the future extensions of Gasol/Mayo/Randolph and it is a lot of savings. If youd rather it can simply be.

TE + Pick for Thabeet + other long term contract

so it saves you money but i dont know whod youd want to dump really.

I hear ya - and it's sound reasoning (at least as far as the Grizz front office goes). That said, they could have opted to not pick up Thabeet's option and just let him walk. My gut feeling is that he's being retained to either a) continue to develop in the hope that the 60 watt bulb finally clicks on or b) pair him with Mayo and other lesser assets to move for an "upgrade". However, I don't see either as likely.

[mid-post]

you guys interested in

Reggie Evans (expiring)
Miami 2011 1st Round Pick

for

Hasheem Thabeet

?

I wouldn't be. I'd rather see Thabeet used in a deal to bring in something, rather than just a dump.

Yeah, but at this rate the Miami heat pick could end up being pretty valuable.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Yeah, but at this rate the Miami heat pick could end up being pretty valuable.

[HeartFoundation]

It is really not that crazy, Parker would provide floor spacing on an expiring deal, Varejao would backup Randolph and Gasol, and could start next to Gasol if Randolph leaves. In my opinion, a Varejao/Gasol front court would be very balanced. I think it balances your roster and possibly gets you out of the first round without adding a ton of money.

I can tell you, no matter under what circumstances, any trade invloving Griz core players (Marc, OJ, Gay, Conley) is absolutely rubbish. Understand? Griz is building its identity based on those 4 players. And you insist Griz giving up one of the cores. Waht can I say except it's crazy?

[panthermark]

Bulls fan here....
I'm not sure what the deal is with Mayo or not....

But...we do have a valuable pick and a young player to offer, plus other picks.

James Johnson, Cash, and the Bobcat's future pick to start with....and we do have our 2011 first rounder if need be.

Since the Bulls are under the cap, we don't have to match salaries...but we do need to clear a bit more to take on Mayo's contract....so such a deal would have to happen on 12/15...where we would could add either Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, or Brian Scalbrine. Most are are very low, 1 year deals.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Bulls fan here....
I'm not sure what the deal is with Mayo or not....

But...we do have a valuable pick and a young player to offer, plus other picks.

James Johnson, Cash, and the Bobcat's future pick to start with....and we do have our 2011 first rounder if need be.

Since the Bulls are under the cap, we don't have to match salaries...but we do need to clear a bit more to take on Mayo's contract....so such a deal would have to happen on 12/15...where we would could add either Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, or Brian Scalbrine. Most are are very low, 1 year deals.

No thanks.

[I Am Awesome-O]

No thanks.

To put it lightly.

[jakapono24]

What about:

Leandro Barbosa + Ed Davis + Miami 1st

for

OJ Mayo + Hasheem Thabeet

???

I guess the logic behind this would be that the Grizzlies want an immediate upgrade at the 2 spot off of the bench (starting Allen who can defend). Barbosa provides similar per 40 numbers to Mayo (when both are healthy), and brings a veteran touch to the bench. With Davis you get SOME insurance behind Randolph, but honestly he hasn't played yet so the jury is still out on what type of player he can become. I think Thabeet is a realized mistake and is now essentially a throw-in to match salaries. If I was a Grizz fan I'd have a tough time letting Mayo go, but if you look at the pure stats he is an average player at best...and this season he's below that.

[I Am Awesome-O]

^ No.

Barbosa is not an upgrade over Mayo at all, and the Grizzlies could have drafted Davis if they wanted him.

[jym85]

Any real chance Gay will get moved if you guys stay around the 10th seed or so?

Got to admit I was rather surprised when he was re-signed.
He's played great so it doesn't look like there's any real reason to move him unless you want to make room to re-sign Gasol or Randolph/Randolph replacement

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Any real chance Gay will get moved if you guys stay around the 10th seed or so?

Got to admit I was rather surprised when he was re-signed.
He's played great so it doesn't look like there's any real reason to move him unless you want to make room to re-sign Gasol or Randolph/Randolph replacement

Your premise and followup don't really make sense for the Grizz - at least at this time.

[mid-post]

At this point in the season it really looks like a trade (or series of trades) needs to be made.
OJ is going to get moved before Randolph IMO. His contract is a lot more easy to move in a trade and he offers a skillset that's in demand for a number of teams that are courting the playoffs.
So what do you guys think would be a fair deal for OJ at this point? Over on the Bulls board I posted a trade I'd seen listed before: OJ for Taj Gibson, cash and one of the Bulls' first round picks.
Why I think Memphis should do this: Gibson is a power forward that does the dirty work a bit better than Darrell. He's making 1.1 million or so this year. He's a pretty decent post defender. I think Zach's kind of given Memphis what he's going to give them and it makes no sense for them to sign him at the end of this season (barring a miraculous turnaround by both he and Memphis).
This move allows Memphis to dump ZBo mid-season and pick up a piece or two in exchange rather than just letting him go.
There's the outside chance the roster as it stands turns things around and they start to win games. But if they keep losing every 2 out of 3, a move like this should really happen.

[Foshan]

posted this in philly forum too.

Would you do this trade with philly:

Iggy & Speights for Mayo, Thabeet and Henry

maybe add a 2rd pick.

Sub out Tony Allen for Henry. It's a very fair/tempting offer though.

Talent and salary wise it makes sense, but I don't see Iguodala meshing very well with the group we have in place. I just think they'd need a guy similar to OJ in terms of being a threat to hurt you from 3. Team doesn't have enough shooters. Just my opinion.
I mean you could turn Iguodala into some good pieces probably so who knows...

Philly would be interested in the original, tho swapping out Allen for Mayo makes it really bad for philly. I think Iggy would mesh great with this team, he's a great facilitator, efficent, and he and Gay are friends and played great together on teamUSA. Iggy's actually a pretty good spot up shooter, his % are bad because he ends up taking a lot of end of shot clock shots that are pretty ugly, on the Mem squad he wouldn't have to take those shots... gay would

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Philly would be interested in the original, tho swapping out Allen for Mayo makes it really bad for philly. I think Iggy would mesh great with this team, he's a great facilitator, efficent, and he and Gay are friends and played great together on teamUSA. Iggy's actually a pretty good spot up shooter, his % are bad because he ends up taking a lot of end of shot clock shots that are pretty ugly, on the Mem squad he wouldn't have to take those shots... gay would

I wasn't suggesting subbing out for Mayo, it's Henry I wasn't so enthused about moving. Wouldn't be a deal breaker though.

[MrMiyagi]

Hey just curious, would you guys be interested in Nash or JRich? Maybe one of them for Mayo and Thabeet. We could throw in a 1st. If you want JRich you'd probably need another filler to make the contracts work. Probably unlikely that either would happen but the Suns are looking like a borderline playoff team if that and it's starting to look like rebuild mode. Plus JRich could help get some money so you can pay ZBo and Gasol.

[It_Was_Typed]

Is Thabeet for Daye and Wilcox realistic?

[Rapsobsessed7]

what could Toronto give you for Mayo?

Or something for Thabeet?

1) Evans + Wright + Mia 1st for Allen + Thabeet
= saves Grizz 8.3 million next season. Wright and Evans expire

2) Evans + Miami 1st for Thabeet
= saves 5.1 million

3) Evans + Alabi or Dorsey + miami 1st for Thabeet

4) TE + Miami 1st for Thabeet

Any of those seem decent? I figured with the Grizz now trying to move Thabeet a salary dump may make more sense if it allows you to keep Mayo + Gasol + Randolph

[ballislife]

Toronto:
One of: Leandro Barbosa/ Reggie Evans/ TPE (would be used in 2 separate deals)
Ed Davis
Miami 1st

Memphis:
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet

The Raptors get a centre prospect with defensive potential (something they could use) and a legitimate starting 2 who can help with the play making - fits in well with the young core going forward. If Thabeet proves to be effective given minutes, he could potentially be a great defensive presence next to Bargnani. Letting go of Barbosa and Davis allows Weems to assume Barbosa's role as a scorer off the bench, and Thabeet takes over Davis's minutes.

The Grizzlies can get a replacement for Mayo off the bench - a guy who's proven to be effective in a 6th man role. Or they can get a straight up expiring contract who could help the front court off the bench. OR they can obtain the TPE and get rid of the salaries as a whole off this seasons payroll. They would also get a young promising defensive big man in Ed Davis as well as a first rounder. Helps Memphis in the short and long term to get a deal done with Gasol and maintain some youth development going forward.

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

Declined

[BarbaGrizz]

I would do it Alabi + Miami´s 1st for Thabeet