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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#61 » by InFlames » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:54 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:Skip on First Take, while talking about Doug Collins just said he has a respected source in the Sixers organization that said Bynum's latest MRI showed degeneration.


I bet that was one reason he was so frustrated last night, especially after getting crushed by the two guys he traded.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#62 » by Big A All Day » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:56 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:ummmmm, DJRajX suddenly a Seattle Sports fan? He hasn't posted here in awhile.

Look at his profile and sig.

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And he has this for his Location: "Residing in the Pacific NW"


Wooooowwww... I remember he rushed in so many times to make threads n now hes a full on Seattle fan? Smfh
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#63 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:02 pm

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VGOSWAMI wrote:Skip on First Take, while talking about Doug Collins just said he has a respected source in the Sixers organization that said Bynum's latest MRI showed degeneration.


I bet that was one reason he was so frustrated last night, especially after getting crushed by the two guys he traded.


I bet the Sixers at least got the Insurance to pay off 80% of this season. And, at least Bynum is an expiring for worst case scenario. Unfortunately, Sixers are still stuck with JRich.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#64 » by KingRobb02 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:11 pm

glennathan wrote:I think there are 2 legit contenders for Exec of the Year. Morey in Houston & Hennigan in Orlando.

Here is my reasoning for each:

Morey: Pulled off the deals for Lin and Asik and got them on to poison pill contracts that will not harm the team until 2015. He successfully traded for James Harden and got him to agree to a contract extension giving them a top tier SG for the foreseeable future. He made 2 trades at the trade deadline and succesfully obtained the #5 pick in last years draft and got a draft pick for lower end bench players. They not only did the trade and got more flexibility they now have enough expiring contracts and cap space to go after their big man gem in Dwight Howard.

Hennigan: was given the reigns of control literally 2 weeks before the draft. He fired the entire front office staff and all coaching staff except for Mark Price at the time. He successfully drafted Nicholson and O'Quinn in a draft when he easily could have gotten burned. He traded the centerpiece and figurehead (aka Cancer) of the team and completed a very complex and intricated deal giving us anywhere from 3-7 draft picks (see terms on Philly and lakers 1st picks), also gave us our Center of the foreseeable future, and got the largest TPE in NBA history. Continuing on he hired an incredible front office staff which gave us the scouting ability to pull off the JJ trade. He signed Jameer Nelson the captain of the organization to a contract which only will benefit us in the future to obtain more benefits. The team has cap space to sign a max level free agent should the choose to do so which is something the team has not had in close to 7 years.

Now between the two I think the nod goes to Morey only because they have a winning record and are in the playoffs. I think orlando is too raw for now and Hennigan could possibly win the Exec of Year next year seeing how this summer goes.

If you're going to include Hennigan, you have to include Mitch Kupchak and the Lakers. He turned Bynum, McRoberts and Eyenga into Dwight Howard, Earl Clark, Steve Nash, and Duhon. Considering Bynum hasn't played yet, McRoberts was just dumped and Eyenga was cut before the season I say that was a good exchange. Can't use the worse than last season excuse, if you consider how bad we look currently.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#65 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:21 pm

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arsenal6106 wrote:ummmmm, DJRajX suddenly a Seattle Sports fan? He hasn't posted here in awhile.

Look at his profile and sig.

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And he has this for his Location: "Residing in the Pacific NW"


Wooooowwww... I remember he rushed in so many times to make threads n now hes a full on Seattle fan? Smfh


Wow. He was a very avid Magic fan. Don't know how one just changes teams like that. But, the Magic are like a completely different team now. Who knows.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#66 » by OMPunk » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:25 pm

Big A All Day wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:ummmmm, DJRajX suddenly a Seattle Sports fan? He hasn't posted here in awhile.

Look at his profile and sig.

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And he has this for his Location: "Residing in the Pacific NW"


Wooooowwww... I remember he rushed in so many times to make threads n now hes a full on Seattle fan? Smfh


With all that's going on and Seattle not looking as likely to get a team now he'll be back soon.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#67 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:28 pm

I would probably still go with OKC's Presti, Heats GM, Indy's GM, Knicks GM, Lakers GM amongst a few teams who are doing really well as far as executive of the year. Because, taking a 55 win team and making them into the 2nd worst team in the league while piling on late 1st round picks is nothing earth shattering. Sure, there some quality players have been obtained, but besides Vucevic, nobody knows what type of impact these players will have in 3-4 years. So, if Henny is ever considered for Exec of the year, it won't be for years after the decisions he made now blossom or explode.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#68 » by BaunceyChillups » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:36 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
glennathan wrote:I think there are 2 legit contenders for Exec of the Year. Morey in Houston & Hennigan in Orlando.

Here is my reasoning for each:

Morey: Pulled off the deals for Lin and Asik and got them on to poison pill contracts that will not harm the team until 2015. He successfully traded for James Harden and got him to agree to a contract extension giving them a top tier SG for the foreseeable future. He made 2 trades at the trade deadline and succesfully obtained the #5 pick in last years draft and got a draft pick for lower end bench players. They not only did the trade and got more flexibility they now have enough expiring contracts and cap space to go after their big man gem in Dwight Howard.

Hennigan: was given the reigns of control literally 2 weeks before the draft. He fired the entire front office staff and all coaching staff except for Mark Price at the time. He successfully drafted Nicholson and O'Quinn in a draft when he easily could have gotten burned. He traded the centerpiece and figurehead (aka Cancer) of the team and completed a very complex and intricated deal giving us anywhere from 3-7 draft picks (see terms on Philly and lakers 1st picks), also gave us our Center of the foreseeable future, and got the largest TPE in NBA history. Continuing on he hired an incredible front office staff which gave us the scouting ability to pull off the JJ trade. He signed Jameer Nelson the captain of the organization to a contract which only will benefit us in the future to obtain more benefits. The team has cap space to sign a max level free agent should the choose to do so which is something the team has not had in close to 7 years.

Now between the two I think the nod goes to Morey only because they have a winning record and are in the playoffs. I think orlando is too raw for now and Hennigan could possibly win the Exec of Year next year seeing how this summer goes.

If you're going to include Hennigan, you have to include Mitch Kupchak and the Lakers. He turned Bynum, McRoberts and Eyenga into Dwight Howard, Earl Clark, Steve Nash, and Duhon. Considering Bynum hasn't played yet, McRoberts was just dumped and Eyenga was cut before the season I say that was a good exchange. Can't use the worse than last season excuse, if you consider how bad we look currently.


Fielding a 100 million dollar roster to give Phoenix a lottery pick is Otis-tier, possibly lower than that.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#69 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:49 pm

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VGOSWAMI wrote:I was pretty disappointed to hear this too. He has his reasons. I bet he still lurks around too lol.

Yeah, I was really upset about it when he told me as well. As VGOSWAMI said, he has his reasons though. There was a reason why I took his job doing the stats for the Spec thread lol.

I'm honestly surprised it took people here this long to find out though.

EDIT: I'm going to post the updated stats a little later.


As your business partner, it would've been nice if you had given me a heads up on the DJ situation.

Welp, it looks like we are fully responsible for the Spec. Thread. I think we've been doing a pretty good job on keeping this thread going.

Take your time on the stats. As usual, no rush.

Yup, we are. I was waiting for Raj to post it on the boards though, but looks like he isn't, so, yeah.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#70 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:51 pm

@arsenal6106, I should have just posted this with my other post, but oh well. Here are the updated stats, please place them in the OP whenever you get a chance. Now, I'm going back to watch some more Naruto.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#71 » by InFlames » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:57 pm

Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.
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Post#72 » by RickB-Orlando » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:02 pm

InFlames wrote:Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.

Also, with the huge (and extended) TPE, if such a situation were to arise, salaries would be unlikely to be an issue.
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Post#73 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:16 pm

InFlames wrote:Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.

I don't want to trade anyone on our team but Afflalo and Harrington....... I like everyone else....
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Post#74 » by KingRobb02 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:27 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
InFlames wrote:Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.

I don't want to trade anyone on our team but Afflalo and Harrington....... I like everyone else....

Turkoglu? Davis?
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Post#75 » by ZeusIsLoose » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:38 pm

Would anyone classify Trey Burke as the next Jameer? Not big in size, not explosive. but overall a good scoring PG
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Post#76 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:53 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
InFlames wrote:Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.

I don't want to trade anyone on our team but Afflalo and Harrington....... I like everyone else....


I may add Hedo to this list. But, I agree 100%.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#77 » by OrlandO » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:57 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
glennathan wrote:I think there are 2 legit contenders for Exec of the Year. Morey in Houston & Hennigan in Orlando.

Here is my reasoning for each:

Morey: Pulled off the deals for Lin and Asik and got them on to poison pill contracts that will not harm the team until 2015. He successfully traded for James Harden and got him to agree to a contract extension giving them a top tier SG for the foreseeable future. He made 2 trades at the trade deadline and succesfully obtained the #5 pick in last years draft and got a draft pick for lower end bench players. They not only did the trade and got more flexibility they now have enough expiring contracts and cap space to go after their big man gem in Dwight Howard.

Hennigan: was given the reigns of control literally 2 weeks before the draft. He fired the entire front office staff and all coaching staff except for Mark Price at the time. He successfully drafted Nicholson and O'Quinn in a draft when he easily could have gotten burned. He traded the centerpiece and figurehead (aka Cancer) of the team and completed a very complex and intricated deal giving us anywhere from 3-7 draft picks (see terms on Philly and lakers 1st picks), also gave us our Center of the foreseeable future, and got the largest TPE in NBA history. Continuing on he hired an incredible front office staff which gave us the scouting ability to pull off the JJ trade. He signed Jameer Nelson the captain of the organization to a contract which only will benefit us in the future to obtain more benefits. The team has cap space to sign a max level free agent should the choose to do so which is something the team has not had in close to 7 years.

Now between the two I think the nod goes to Morey only because they have a winning record and are in the playoffs. I think orlando is too raw for now and Hennigan could possibly win the Exec of Year next year seeing how this summer goes.

If you're going to include Hennigan, you have to include Mitch Kupchak and the Lakers. He turned Bynum, McRoberts and Eyenga into Dwight Howard, Earl Clark, Steve Nash, and Duhon. Considering Bynum hasn't played yet, McRoberts was just dumped and Eyenga was cut before the season I say that was a good exchange. Can't use the worse than last season excuse, if you consider how bad we look currently.

It's the Lakers in LA. Not exactly the toughest place for a GM to produce with their spending habits and players tripping over each other to get there. What's so impressive about trading injury-prone Bynum for Dwight? Dwight requested to be traded there and he's widely recognized as the best center in the league. That's a no-brainer and he even did all the legwork for LA. Henny was the one who had the short end of the stick in having to trade a devalued dwight to one of two teams. He chose LA and turned a risk in Bynum into quality youth and assets. Earl Clark is making just $1.2 mil this season and he's a free agent this summer. Is LA going to pay him the $$$ he's now worth in the eyes of other teams? Is Acquiring Nash that impressive? He's 39 and they're paying him $8.9-9.7 mil for 3 guaranteed seasons... no-brainer for Nash, especially considering the roster and location.

Don't get me wrong, LA still put together a mini allstar team, but it's much easier pulling off those moves in LA than it would be to do them anywhere else. That's why I'm more impressed with Morey's moves and what Henny was able to do with the situation he inherited.
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Post#78 » by InFlames » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:03 pm

What Kupchak did isn't impressive at all lmao. Dwight forced his way there and literally anyone would trade Bynum for Dwight in a heartbeat. Not to mention how bad the Lakers have been this season.
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Post#79 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:14 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
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InFlames wrote:Hennigan has also loaded the team with assets so we can get in on the next Harden situation if we choose to.

I don't want to trade anyone on our team but Afflalo and Harrington....... I like everyone else....

Turkoglu? Davis?

I forgot Turkoglu was still on the team lmao! I don't want Davis gone though.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#80 » by KingRobb02 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:30 pm

InFlames wrote:What Kupchak did isn't impressive at all lmao. Dwight forced his way there and literally anyone would trade Bynum for Dwight in a heartbeat. Not to mention how bad the Lakers have been this season.

It's easy to say that Dwight forced his was to LA as if he didn't spend the past 18 months campaigning to get to Brooklyn. The difference is that Kupchak actually pulled the deal off. The hard part isn't being willing to accept Dwight for Bynum, it's the fact that he tricked Philly and Orlando into trading their best players while only giving up Bynum and some second rounders. I'm not arguing for Kupchak, just against the notion that our GM should be in the Executive of the year race when our team is so bad.

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