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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1801 » by Bernman » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:25 pm

engelmartin wrote:I can't decide if I like Hibbert or Brook Lopez less. Probably Hibbert. Both guys are overhyped based on their size.


Lopez is vastly under-hyped here. In his last nearly full year he had the 6th best Roland Rating in the NBA, sandwiched between Duncan, Paul, Parker, and Anthony. The reality is Lopez is a really good player. And as I laid out in a previous post, the Lopez trade would have been a fine one for the Bucks at the time because both Lopez is a good player, and trading a then healthy enough Sanders + Ilyasova pre deadline would have ensured a top 4 pick unlike keeping them.

Hibbert on the other hand might have some intangible effect with his rim protection, but he's barely out-producing his counterpart on a game-by-game basis, so in reality he could just be a little above average player on a team that was really good thanks to George and West. Plus he's older and more expensive than Sanders, so that would probably be a terrible trade for us right now.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1802 » by jimmybones » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:42 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hibbert is just a guy that I don't feel comfortable paying max money to when he could turn from Marc Gasol into Kwame Brown at a moment's notice. Sure, he doesn't have anywhere near the offensive skills that Hibbert has, but I think Larry is a better talent, younger, cheaper, and more salvageable.



But...how'd he turn into Marc Gasol?

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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1803 » by Karsenmitsche » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:44 pm

So has everyone now realized that Bledsoe makes no sense for us? We need another impact player through the draft if we are going to compete with LeBron, Wiggins, and Kyrie.

I dont know if Jabari, Giannis, Bledsoe would be enough to beat that team.

Our rebuild just got that much harder.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1804 » by TroyD92 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:45 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I know Hibbert is fun to kick around, but swapping he for Sanders would not be the worst deal in the world if Kidd had an accelerated plan to get a PG like Bledsoe. Hibbert was pretty much superior to Sanders until Hibbert had his personal meltdown last winter. Maybe it was caused by Paul George screwing his wife or whatever. Don't know.

If Kidd thought he could reclaim him with a change of scenery, AND the new ownership and Kidd didn't want to tank badly next year, this type of move could have some merit.

I remember that no one wanted AK47 for that period of time he was messed up with his wife and playing Warcraft all night. Hibbert could be the same way.


I think it would be an absolute abomination of a deal. HIbbert has always been trash. One good series against Miami inflated his value in the worst way.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1805 » by eagle13 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:51 pm

One issue of the Bucks that many analysts named was the constant churn/huge turnover of the roster every year thereby preventing any continuity from occurring. Players benefit from getting to know each others tendencies. A trade like Sanders for Hibbert provides no improvement just creates discontinuity. Unless an outstanding deal comes about I feel the following players should not be traded as they are all capable of developing and making a positive contribution now and in the future:

Parker
Giannis
Sanders
Middleton
Henson
Knight
Wolters
OBryant
Raduj

Meanwhile the following are unlikely long term contributors or are no longer a fit
Delfino-31 –team option next year
Zaza-30 – 2yrs remaining
Sessions-28 -FA
Adriend-28 -FA
Ersan-27 – 3 yrs remaining
Mayo-26 – 2 yrs remaining
Udrih-25 -FA
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1806 » by Cold Crush 24 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:55 pm

So... Lin to MKE?
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1807 » by MadBlueEdwards » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:57 pm

Karsenmitsche wrote:So has everyone now realized that Bledsoe makes no sense for us? We need another impact player through the draft if we are going to compete with LeBron, Wiggins, and Kyrie.

I dont know if Jabari, Giannis, Bledsoe would be enough to beat that team.

Our rebuild just got that much harder.


Your argument doesn't make much sense.

Yes, Cleveland is going to be much better, but Miami is going to be much worse. Power just shifts in the conference from one team to another. This has no effect on our rebuilding process.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1808 » by Majik7 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:08 pm

I would be shocked if we traded Sanders for Hibbert after listening to Gery's interview with Bill Michaels. Gery was pushing his anti Sanders agenda, sounded like no truth to the scenario at all, just wishful thinking on Gerys's part.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1809 » by JayMKE » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:13 pm

Throw the max offer at Bledsoe, if Suns match whatever. Lin + assets and then sign Austin Rivers.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1810 » by rayallenscalves » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:16 pm

Not sure of the legality of this move, but couldn't the Bucks trade Wright (non-guaranteed) for Lin and asset? I know Philly's been most tied to Lin, but what can they offer the Bucks can't? Houston can just immediately wave Wright and they have a nice wad of cash to spend on Bosh and Parsons.

At the very least, the Bucks should pursue it. You eat Lin's contract for a year, pick up an asset and aim for a long-term starter at PG in next year's draft.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1811 » by andonewheel » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:16 pm

I'd love to add Bledsoe but I assume the Suns match. At this point I'd rather be aggressive in adding Lin + picks. Using our cap space to acquire future assets is the best thing we can do right now.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1812 » by Wisky3 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:19 pm

Majik7 wrote:I would be shocked if we traded Sanders for Hibbert after listening to Gery's interview with Bill Michaels. Gery was pushing his anti Sanders agenda, sounded like no truth to the scenario at all, just wishful thinking on Gerys's part.


I am getting really sick of Gery. You can't ask him anything without him bringing up Trading Sanders - I wish we had a real beat writer that I enjoy like I do with the Packers & Brewers.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1813 » by mlloyd10 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:19 pm

JayMKE wrote:Throw the max offer at Bledsoe, if Suns match whatever. Lin + assets and then sign Austin Rivers.



Not enough time now - Rockets have 59 hrs left if they want to match Parson's deal(need to trade Lin) and Suns can wait 3 days
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1814 » by emunney » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:21 pm

We're in such a good position to absorb solid players from teams like Houston and Chicago. Whether it's Lin and picks, Terrence Jones, Beverley, Gibson (to be flipped), it's going to be pretty disappointing if we don't get in on one of them. Unless we actually get Bledsoe (not just set Phoenix's contract for him).
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1815 » by JayMKE » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:27 pm

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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1816 » by JayMKE » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:29 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Throw the max offer at Bledsoe, if Suns match whatever. Lin + assets and then sign Austin Rivers.



Not enough time now - Rockets have 59 hrs left if they want to match Parson's deal(need to trade Lin) and Suns can wait 3 days


long enough to know whether or not Bledsoe will sign an offer sheet with us

Bledsoe was waiting for this Lebron business to get over with

im expecting something to happen soon
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1817 » by mlloyd10 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:32 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/487649792500461569[/tweet]

Deng and Thomas to Suns? If your the Suns, would you rather have those 2 or Bledsoe
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1818 » by birlik54 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:34 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/487649792500461569[/tweet]

Deng and Thomas to Suns? If your the Suns, would you rather have those 2 or Bledsoe


That's a good question. It certainly is looking like Phoenix is preparing for the eventuality of not matching a max offer sheet for Bledsoe. Hopefully Hammond can get in there and get it done and hopefully Kidd can make a phone call.

That is if Phoenix gets Deng.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1819 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:38 pm

birlik54 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/487649792500461569[/tweet]

Deng and Thomas to Suns? If your the Suns, would you rather have those 2 or Bledsoe


That's a good question. It certainly is looking like Phoenix is preparing for the eventuality of not matching a max offer sheet for Bledsoe. Hopefully Hammond can get in there and get it done and hopefully Kidd can make a phone call.

That is if Phoenix gets Deng.
actually I think it's much more likely that dragic is getting traded... or just a minor move like moving ennis.

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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1820 » by Bernman » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:38 pm

And the LeBron signing domino falls.....now soon to follow will be Hamway finally displaying their genius to Bucks' nation and the world.

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